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		<title>Why are young people not coming to the traditional church?  An apology for reaching young people</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Why are 20-year-olds not responding to the Gospel and coming to  church?&#8221; This was the provocative question asked by Rev. John Roth[1] in his Good Friday sermon in 2008. The following was my email response to his  question with a few additions.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;Why are 20-year-olds not responding to the Gospel and coming to  church?&#8221; This was the provocative question asked by Rev. John Roth</span><a name="_ftnref1_7154" href="#_ftn1_7154"><span style="font-size: small;">[1]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> in his Good Friday sermon in 2008. The following was my email response to his  question with a few additions.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Many years ago J. Gresham Machen (d. 1937) wrote a booklet,  &#8220;</span><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Christianity-culture-J-Gresham-Machen/dp/B000884816/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1206057815&amp;sr=1-1"><span style="font-size: small;">Christianity and Culture</span></a><span style="font-size: small;">.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t have the  booklet (which is only 15 pages) but I am reading quotes from this book in  William Lane Craig&#8217;s, </span><a href="http://www.amazon.com/Reasonable-Faith-Christian-Truth-Apologetics/dp/0891077642/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1206058288&amp;sr=1-1"><em><span style="font-size: small;">Reasonable Faith: Christian Truth and Apologetics</span></em></a><span style="font-size: small;">.  Machen wrote, &#8220;The chief obstacle to the Christian religion to-day  lies in the sphere of the intellect. . .  The Church is perishing to-day through  the lack of thinking, not through an excess of it&#8221; (Machen p. 13, in Craig, p.  <em>xv</em>).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">William Lane Craig is one of the foremost evangelical apologists  in the world today.  He is addressing intellectual issues of our day.  See his  homepage </span><a href="http://www.reasonablefaith.org/site/PageServer"><span style="font-size: small;">HERE</span></a><span style="font-size: small;">.  Some of Craig&#8217;s debates and articles are </span><a href="http://www.leaderu.com/offices/billcraig/"><span style="font-size: small;">HERE</span></a><span style="font-size: small;">.<br />
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<p><span style="font-size: small;">Craig states the following that, I  think, addresses some of the problems in engaging 20-year-olds today:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">Our churches are filled with Christians who are idling in  intellectual neutral.  As Christians, their minds are going to waste.  One  result of this is an immature, superficial faith. . .  They know little of the  riches of deep understanding of Christian truth, of the confidence inspired by  the discovery that one&#8217;s faith is logical and fits the facts of experience. . .   If Christian laymen don&#8217;t become intellectually engaged, then we are in serious  danger of losing our children.  In high school and college Christian teenagers  are intellectually assaulted on every hand by a barrage of anti-Christian  philosophies and attitudes.  As I speak in churches around the country, I  continually meet parents whose children have left the faith because there was no  one in the church to answer their questions.  For the sake of our youth, we  desperately need informed parents who are equipped to wrestle with the issues at  an intellectual level (William Lane Craig 1994, <em>Reasonable Faith</em>,  Crossway Books, Wheaton, Illinois, p. <em>xv</em>).</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">I know how destitute I was in 1984 when I was pursuing doctoral  studies in the USA at university and the professor said to me in front of the  class when I questioned a theory: &#8220;Your views are b-s&#8221; (and he didn&#8217;t  abbreviate).  From that very moment I have spent a lot of time equipping myself  to defend the Christian faith against challenges to the faith.  My churches did  not equip me to do that.  They should be doing it on the basis of Eph.  4:12.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Then we have to counter the trash from some pulpits and the mass  media.  Did you read the anti-biblical challenge from within the church from  clergy such as the Rev. Dr. John Evans, Uniting Church minister at Church of All  nations, Carlton (Melbourne) &#8220;</span><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/ditch-good-friday-as-holiday-cleric/2008/03/20/1205602551698.html"><span style="font-size: small;">Ditch Good Friday as holiday</span></a><span style="font-size: small;">.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref2_7154" href="#_ftn2_7154"><span style="font-size: small;">[2]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Then there is the heretical material coming from people such as </span><a href="http://www.dioceseofnewark.org/jsspong/"><span style="font-size: small;">John Shelby  Spong</span></a><span style="font-size: small;">, </span><a href="http://www.pesherofchrist.infinitesoulutions.com/"><span style="font-size: small;">Barbara  Thiering</span></a><span style="font-size: small;">, </span><a href="http://www.johndominiccrossan.com/"><span style="font-size: small;">John Dominic  Crossan</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> and the </span><a href="http://www.westarinstitute.org/"><span style="font-size: small;">Jesus  Seminar</span></a><span style="font-size: small;">. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Therefore, I suggest that we are not reaching 20-year-olds (and  others), because we are not answering the questions they are asking about God,  the world and even in spiritual matters.  How can we overcome this problem?    These are my suggestions:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">1.  Equip the people in our churches to be defenders of the  faith.  Surely we have examples of this approach with Paul at Athens (Acts  17:16ff) in reasoning in the synagogue with Jews, devout persons and in the  market place with those who happened to be there (v. 17), as well as Epicurean  and Stoic philosophers (v. 18).  Then we have Paul on the Areopagus (Acts  17:22ff) addressing one of the issues of the day, &#8220;To an unknown god.&#8221;  We don&#8217;t  seem to be doing this much today.  In fact, I don&#8217;t know of any church locally  that has an outreach ministry of apologetics that is answering the questions  20-year-olds and others are asking. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">2.  We have resources by the droves to help pastors and teachers  to equip God&#8217;s people for ministries of apologetics.  William Lane Craig, Ravi  Zacharias, Norman Geisler, John W. Montgomery, Winfried Corduan, John Frame,  Cornelius van Til, R. C. Sproul, John Gerstner, Craig Evans, Gary Habermas, Douglas Groothuis, Douglas Geivett, N. T. Wright and others have helped me with  answers to the questions of our day.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">3.  As we equip God&#8217;s people in apologetics, have focus groups  where young people gather: high schools, universities, skate parks, etc.  In  fact we have an ideal opportunity to do this in high school with RE (religious  education, although there are limitations here) but I don&#8217;t see it being done.   We could ask high school teens questions such as these?</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">a. Do you believe in God?  If not, why not?  What is stopping a  teen from believing in God?  Explore this in open, honest discussion.  Most lay  people teaching RE are not equipped to do this.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">b. Why is there so much evil in the world?  How can your good  God allow genocide and even contribute to it in the time of Noah?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">c. What&#8217;s the big deal about God?  Why even bother with  him?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">d. That religious stuff in the Bible is unbelievable (raising  the dead and casting out demons&#8217; crap – that&#8217;s what a person said to me). </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">e. In the world of science, can Bible stuff be  believed?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">f. I&#8217;m living alright without God.  Why even bother with him? </span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">4.  Then we have outreach to address these needs with mass media  advertising—even use the classifieds in newspapers and billboards. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">5. I engage with atheists on the www to help sharpen my skills  and answer their penetrating questions.  One of them stated:</span></p>
<ul>
<li>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Please show me where your religion counts as proof. Can you  prove that babies are aware of sin or not?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Some things are wrong regardless if they are sins or not. Sin  is only an action contrary to religion.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Sin doesn&#8217;t equal wrong. Sin is contrary to religion. For  example genocide is wrong regardless of religion. Gay marriage is not wrong  regardless of religion.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Your religious laws do not apply.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;"> Personhood is not proof of god. Nature is not proof of  god.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Anyone, even a creator, who creates beings, gives them free  will and then commits genocide on them if they disobey is a TYRANT. Sentient  beings are different than an object. As soon as people had free will then they  were not owned by god. God cannot do as he sees fit. If he kills them then he is  a tyrant.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Using the bible to prove your point is meaningless to me. Your  bible means nothing to me. Sin is an action contrary to a religion. If a person  doesn&#8217;t follow your religion then they are not sinning (by your  religion).</span></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">6.  Francis Schaeffer did this kind of thing magnificently.  We  all don&#8217;t have the gifts of Schaeffer, but we all must engage secular young  people and others to begin to answer their penetrating questions.  When we start  to do this, I think that the young may begin to take notice of Jesus, God and  the church.  To this point, most of our answers are stereotypically  Presbyterian, Baptist, Anglican, Pentecostal, Roman Catholic, etc. However, if  we are to engage our culture and attract young people, it will mean outreach  activities with a sharp apologetic edge. How long is it since you, as a pastor,  were engaged in a debate (either public or in your church) with a local young  adult? We have a local university. Why debate one of its students on a hot topic  for the young? What about debating topics such as the following?</span></p>
<ul>
<li>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Why does vandalism attract young people?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">The truth about illicit drugs.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Why does premarital sex not make sense?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">The abortion death squad.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">How to make marriage work.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Why defacto relationships don&#8217;t work.</span></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">7.  Please understand that I am NOT advocating a  seeker-sensitive contemporary approach to marketing Christianity.  Take a listen to what Bill Hybels thinks of the very model that he helped to invent and promote with vigour. </span><span style="font-size: small;">Hybels, one of the seeker-sensitive church gurus has made  this confession:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">Some of the stuff that we have put millions of dollars into  thinking it would really help our people grow and develop spiritually, when the  data actually came back, it wasn&#8217;t helping people that much. Other things that  we didn&#8217;t put that much money into and didn&#8217;t put much staff against is stuff  our people are crying out for (“Willow Creek Repents,” (<em><a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2007/10/willow_creek_re.html">Christianity  Today, 18 October 2007</a></em>)</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">After 30 years of promoting seeker-sensitive programs and  investing millions of dollars in the venture, he says:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">We made a mistake. What we should have done when people crossed  the line of faith and become Christians, we should have started telling people  and teaching people that they have to take responsibility to become &#8217;self  feeders.&#8217; We should have gotten people, taught people, how to read their bible  between service, how to do the spiritual practices much more aggressively on  their own (“Willow Creek Repents,” <em><a href="http://blog.christianitytoday.com/outofur/archives/2007/10/willow_creek_re.html">Christianity  Today, 18 October 2007</a></em>).</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">What I&#8217;m  suggesting is vastly different from that.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">8. However, I am of the view that a church can have solid  biblical lyrics in its songs without maintaining a hymn style of 2-3 centuries  ago. I was raised on traditional hymns but that does not reach today&#8217;s  generation. We could sing the great hymns of the faith accompanied by  contemporary instruments rather than be anchored in another era of a pipe organ,  electronic organ or piano. You can still have guitars and percussion in your  music, maintain a moderate level of sound, and sing songs of substance  biblically.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">9. Too much that comes from our pulpits does not answer the  questions that people are asking.  We can begin to do this by application in our  sermons. Why not address topics like these?</span></p>
<ul>
<li>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">How can I believe in God with so much suffering in the  world?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Surely it&#8217;s arrogant to believe that there is only one way to  the best of life after death.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">What makes Jesus different from Muhammad? </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Too much of Christianity is unseen. We live in a scientific age  that requires empirical support.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Many within the church say the Bible is myth. Is it or is it  not? Can you trust the Bible?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Who made God?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">How can I believe in God when there are so many hypocrites in  the church?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">What can we do about the march of militant  Islam?</span></li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">There is another dimension to why the church might not be  attracting all people, including 20-year-olds:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">But understand this, that in the last days there will come times  of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud,  arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless,  unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good,  treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than  lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. Avoid  such people. (2 Tim. 3:1-5 ESV)</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">These are some thoughts from a believer who is also  concerned over why we are not reaching all people, especially the young.</span></p>
<h3><strong>Appendix A</strong></h3>
<h3><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>Ditch Good Friday as holiday: cleric</strong></span><a name="_ftnref3_7154" href="#_ftn3_7154"><span style="font-size: small;">[3]</span></a></h3>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">March 20, 2008 &#8211; 2:32PM</span></p>
<p><em><span style="font-size: small;">Sydney Morning Herald</span></em></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Good Friday should be dumped as a public holiday and replaced  with a national reconciliation day recognising Aborigines as integral to  Australia&#8217;s identity, a Melbourne cleric says.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The Reverend John Evans, the Uniting Church Minister at the  Church of All Nations in Carlton, said Good Friday had lost its religious  significance outside the Christian community.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">He also said Australia was becoming a more multicultural,  multifaith society and having Good Friday as a public holiday may no longer be  appropriate.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Dr Evans applauded Prime Minister Kevin Rudd&#8217;s public apology as  a major step towards reconciliation, but said a day such as Good Friday should  be set aside to mark the recent steps forward.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;We have done a great thing with the national apology but when  you look at our public holidays there are no public holidays that recognise the  role and place of Aborigines as the first people of this land,&#8221; he said.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Dr Evans said any day, not just Good Friday, could be suitable  for a national reconciliation day.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The exact day should be put to the Aboriginal community, he  said.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">In a statement released today, Dr Evans said: &#8220;Whether Good  Friday is a public holiday or not will not change or challenge the day&#8217;s  significance. In fact, in the place of Good Friday, there should be a national  holiday to mark our endeavours towards Aboriginal reconciliation.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">When asked about the statement, Dr Evans said: &#8220;That would be  the gift that I would be prepared to make, that if the only way we could get a  public holiday for national day of reconciliation is that it&#8217;s Good Friday, I&#8217;d  be for it.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">He said Good Friday would not lose its name or significance as a  result.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;We will never not have Good Friday. The question is should it  be a public holiday,&#8221; he said.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;And I would welcome it to be a public holiday but I would also  observe that it is not being treated as a holy day.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Dr Evans said a national reconciliation day fits in with the  message of Easter, which he said was about reconciliation between individuals,  God and each other.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">But Catholic Auxiliary Bishop of Melbourne, Christopher Prowse  said despite the importance of reconciliation it would be inappropriate to have  such a day on Good Friday.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;Aboriginal issues are very important for Australia, however the  Good Friday observance has a different focus and that focus should not be  deflected by other issues, however important.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">But another day could be set aside for reconciliation, he  said.</span></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size: small;">AAP</span></strong></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></p>
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<p style="text-align: left;"><a name="_ftn1_7154" href="#_ftnref1_7154"><span style="font-size: small;">[1]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Rev. John Roth is the pastor of Hervey Bay Presbyterian Church, Denman&#8217;s  Camp Road, Hervey Bay 4655, Australia. It was in his Good Friday sermon on 21  March 2008.</span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><a name="_ftn2_7154" href="#_ftnref2_7154"><span style="font-size: small;">[2]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> See Appendix A.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn3_7154" href="#_ftnref3_7154"><span style="font-size: small;">[3]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Available from: </span><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/ditch-good-friday-as-holiday-cleric/2008/03/20/1205602551698.html"><span style="font-size: small;">http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/ditch-good-friday-as-holiday-cleric/2008/03/20/1205602551698.html</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> [21 March 2008].</span></p>
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		<title>Jesus is not unique: An assessment of the ABC TV &#8220;Compass&#8221; program</title>
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What would be your response if you turned on your TV at Easter  time to a documentary and heard this[1]
1. The Jesus story is supposed to be exclusive to Christianity.  That&#8217;s what we have been told for 2,000 years.
2. But it&#8217;s not unique. The ancient god, Krishna, was 800 years  before [...]]]></description>
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<p><span style="font-size: small;">What would be your response if you turned on your TV at Easter  time to a documentary and heard this</span><a name="_ednref1" href="#_edn1"><span style="font-size: small;">[1]</span></a></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">1. The Jesus story is supposed to be exclusive to Christianity.  That&#8217;s what we have been told for 2,000 years.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">2. But it&#8217;s not unique. The ancient god, Krishna, was 800 years  before Christ and he had a miraculous birth and was attended by angels.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">3. Buddha performed miracles and fed 5,000 people;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">4. Jesus didn&#8217;t die on a cross in Jerusalem, but is buried in  India.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">5. The Muslims expect Jesus to return to be in a tomb next to  Muhammad&#8217;s.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">6. The Christian&#8217;s <em>christos</em> (Christ) comes from the same  root as Krishna.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">7. The second line of the Lord&#8217;s prayer, &#8220;Hallowed be thy name,&#8221;  has almost the same idea as Krishna&#8217;s.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">8. In the Gospel of John, Jesus said: &#8220;And I have other sheep  that are not of this fold&#8221; (John 10:16). When Jesus said this &#8220;he was speaking  of other religions and their teachings.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">9. Buddha&#8217;s continuum of life and the perfecting of life are  very similar to that proclaimed by Jesus.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">10. The pagan religion of Mithras parallels the rise of Jesus.  Mithras offered life after death. Did Christianity steal these ideas as Mithras  lived before Christ?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">11. Christianity borrowed some of its ideas from the Osiris, an  ancient god of the Egyptians that went back as far as 2,500BC. That&#8217;s why  Christianity spread so quickly in Egypt.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">12. Why do Christians reject these parallels? That&#8217;s because  Mithras and Osiris are too close to the Christian story.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">I walked into this barrage of statements about the alleged  parallels between Jesus and world religions when I turned on ABC TV&#8217;s Compass  program, Sunday night, 5th April 2009. This was the first part of the program  called, &#8220;The Hidden Story of Jesus,&#8221; and it was prepared and narrated by a  liberal theologian </span><a name="_ednref2" href="#_edn2"><span style="font-size: small;">[2]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> from the UK by the name of Robert Beckford,  who teaches at Oxford Brookes University. Part 2 was on Easter Sunday, 12 April  2009 and I did not see it.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">This program had been shown in the UK in December 2007 on  Channel 4 – around Christmas time. I wonder why?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">This Australian ABC TV attack on the fundamentals of the  Christian faith was telecast to coincide with the Christian&#8217;s celebration of  Christ&#8217;s death and resurrection at Easter 2009. Could this be a  coincidence?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Could you imagine ABC TV attacking Islam like this during the  holy month of Ramadan which is usually in September?</span><a name="_ednref3" href="#_edn3"><span style="font-size: small;">[3]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">I want to use this background to investigate how we as  Christians are to assess attacks against Christ and Christianity. I will begin  with some preliminary questions before I get to a broad outline of how we should  be assessing any worldview – not just Christianity.</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;"> What does this kind of TV attack do to a new  Christian?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;"> Is it a human right not to attack Christianity or any other  religion?</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Let&#8217;s look at these 2 questions:</span></p>
<h3><strong>B. Firstly, what does this kind of TV attack do to a new  Christian?</strong></h3>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">How do you think a new Christian or an immature Christian would  respond to this information? He or she has learned that Jesus said: &#8220;I am the  way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me&#8221;  (John 14:6).</span><a name="_ednref4" href="#_edn4"><span style="font-size: small;">[4]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> This makes Jesus very unique and the  exclusive way to eternal life. But that&#8217;s not what the TV commentary  said.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The new Christian may very well have been exposed to the  teaching of Acts 4:12, &#8220;And there is salvation in no one else, for there is no  other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Then along comes somebody from within the church, a theologian,  Dr. Robert Beckford, who says that what he heard when he was being raised as a  child in the Sunday School, is not what he believes now – based on his research.  He says that Christ is not unique. You can find Christ&#8217;s teachings in many of  the world&#8217;s religions.</span></p>
<ul>
<li> <span style="font-size: small;">Where does that leave the Christians? </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Have we been lied to for the last 2,000 years?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Can we Bible-believing Christians continue to believe what we  were taught in Sunday School when the new information contradicts  it?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Or, do we have to agree with and follow the supposed latest  research of Dr. Beckford that blows the exclusive claims of Jesus out of the  water?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">If Jesus&#8217; message can be found in any of the world&#8217;s  religions, then surely it&#8217;s a fundamentalist farce to impose the exclusive  claims of Jesus on unsuspecting people – that&#8217;s what Beckford said.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Should we be suggesting that there are many ways to experience  the ultimate in religious experience and to enter the Kingdom (whatever that  means).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">In this TV program there was an interview with Egyptologist,  Dr. Bonjana Mojsov</span><a name="_ednref5" href="#_edn5"><span style="font-size: small;">[5]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;">, who would <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">not accept</span></strong> that  <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Christianity stole</span></strong> these ideas from Osiris but she was diplomatic  in claiming that <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Christianity borrowed these ideas</span></strong>. She said that  this could be one of the reasons why Christianity spread so quickly in the early  days in Egypt.</span>
<ul></ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">What does this do to new-found Christian faith? It could have a  very negative impact on new faith unless Christian discipleship includes this  kind of Bible teaching from John 15.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Jesus said according to John 15:18-21: </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;If the world hates you, know that it has hated me before it  hated you. <sup>19</sup>If you were of the world, the world would love you as  its own; but because you are not of the world, but I chose you out of the world,  therefore the world hates you. <sup>20</sup>Remember the word that I said to  you: &#8216;A servant is not greater than his master.&#8217; If they persecuted me, they  will also persecute you. If they kept my word, they will also keep yours.  <sup>21</sup>But all these things they will do to you on account of my name,  because they do not know him who sent me.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">From Jesus again: &#8220;A disciple is not above his teacher, nor a  servant above his master. It is enough for the disciple to be like his teacher,  and the servant like his master. If they have called the master of the house  Beelzebul, how much more will they malign those of his household&#8221; (That&#8217;s Matt.  10:24-25).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Let&#8217;s turn to the apostle Paul in Rom. 12:14:&#8221;Bless those who  persecute you; bless and do not curse them.&#8221; This parallels what Jesus said:  &#8220;But I say to you, Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, so  that you may be sons of your Father who is in heaven&#8221; (Matt. 5:44-45).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">What did Paul say to the Corinthian church? &#8220;When reviled, we  bless; when persecuted, we endure; when slandered, we entreat. We have become,  and are still, like the scum of the world, the refuse of all things&#8221; (I Cor.  4:12-13).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Paul to Timothy said: &#8220;All who desire to live a godly life in  Christ Jesus will be persecuted&#8221; (2 Tim. 3:12).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Christians, this is Bible! Christians will be persecuted by the  ungodly and it is essential in discipleship of new Christians that this  dimension is included. People who come to Jesus for an easy, free ride, have  missed the Saviour and what he taught.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">When you come to Christ, your inner world is radically changed  because you have been born again. You are now in a dynamic, correct relationship  with God. But don&#8217;t expect the world to be excited about this.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">What I viewed on that television program is typical of what to  expect from secular TV or from a non-Christian with whom you may work.  Antagonism is the order of the day from some people.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The first question I had was: What will this kind of program do  to new Christians? I am of the view that it will hit them for a spiritual sixer  unless you disciple them to follow Jesus in this way: &#8220;If they persecuted me,  they will also persecute you.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">So do we have to sit back and take persecution as the expected.  No! No! Expect it, but the Bible&#8217;s teaching is also: &#8220;Take no part in the  unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them. For it is shameful even  to speak of the things that they do in secret. But when anything is exposed by  the light, it becomes visible, for anything that becomes visible is light&#8221; (Eph.  5:11-14).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">That is, expose the darkness and the &#8220;unfruitful works of  darkness&#8221; as you continue to experience the shameful behaviour of  unbelievers.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Firstly, what do statements of doubt in the mass media or from  any other person, do to the new Christians? It could devastate them unless you  prepare them to expect it.</span></p>
<h3><strong>C. Secondly, is it a human right not to attack Christianity or any  other religion?</strong></h3>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Or, to put it another way, should Australia be passing  legislation to make it illegal to attack or expose any religion?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">For those interested, I recommend an article in the  <em>University of Queensland Law Journal</em>, December 2007 edition, where there  is an excellent analysis by Rex Tauati Ahdar titled, &#8220;Religious vilification:  Confused policy, unsound principle and unfortunate law.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref6" href="#_edn6"><span style="font-size: small;">[6]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> It&#8217;s available  online.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Rex Ahdar shows how the UK and three states of  Australia</span><a name="_ednref7" href="#_edn7"><span style="font-size: small;">[7]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> (Queensland, Tasmania &amp; Victoria) have &#8220;enacted laws banning  incitement to religious hatred.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref8" href="#_edn8"><span style="font-size: small;">[8]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> He points out that </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;the best argument against religious vilification is . . . the  Catch the Fire case [in Victoria]. This decision, the first major litigation on  the subject, bears out the concerns of many that religious vilification laws are  conceptually unsound and produce results antithetical to the religious tolerance  its promoters hope for. . . . The justifications for the introduction of  religious vilification laws have never been persuasive.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref9" href="#_edn9"><span style="font-size: small;">[9]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">There is another excellent article by a lawyer in the <em>Sydney  Morning Herald</em> of 18 April 2009,</span><a name="_ednref10" href="#_edn10"><span style="font-size: small;">[10]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> in which he  states:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">This week we have heard about an increasing international trend  to prosecute religious issues in the courts.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">In Britain cases are being brought under laws such as the  Religious Hatred Act, which makes it a crime to &#8220;stir up&#8221; &#8220;religious hatred&#8221;.  British police have even warned that insulting Scientology would be treated as a  crime.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Such legislation may soon be heading to a statute book near  you.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The Australian Human Rights Commission is finalising a report  almost certain to recommend legislation on religion &#8211; on freedom of religion or  religious vilification &#8211; that would mean similar prosecutions being launched  under national law.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Why do we need this? The last time Australians were asked  whether they wanted freedom of religion embodied in the constitution was in  1988. Showing a robust common sense, they voted a resounding &#8220;no&#8221;. It lost in  every state and territory, with up to 74 per cent against.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Citizens knew in their bones that Australia was one of the  freest countries in the world and that we wouldn&#8217;t make ourselves freer by  inventing new offences.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">So why are we even having this debate? The commission says on  its website it&#8217;s because of &#8220;an increased presence of Muslims, Buddhists,  Hindus, Jews and other religious communities&#8221;.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">This is an extraordinary statement; it undermines the need for  any change in the law. If Australia were a nightmare realm of vilification and  persecution, a dystopia of religious angst, I doubt that Muslims, Buddhists,  Hindus and Jews would settle here in growing numbers. The growth of these  communities is proof positive Australia enjoys freedom of religion. . .</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The Human Rights Commission hints it would only recommend civil  penalties. This is bogus.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Those statements were made by a lawyer and former Premier of New  South Wales, Bob Carr. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">There has been a further development in the vilification of  religion stakes. A non-binding resolution, put forward by the Islamic states in  March 2009, was adopted recently by the United Nations Human Rights Council. It  &#8220;calls for the &#8216;defamation of religion&#8217; to be considered a human rights  violation – a crime.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref11" href="#_edn11"><span style="font-size: small;">[11]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;">, </span><a name="_ednref12" href="#_edn12"><span style="font-size: small;">[12]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">How should we respond to such an initiative? Let me suggest to  you that since the time of Christ &amp; the beginning of the church, the  &#8220;offence of the cross&#8221; has been borne by Christians. Jesus was despised,  rejected, ridiculed &amp; scorned. This also happened to his immediate  disciples. It has happened and will continue to happen to all who faithfully  follow Christ.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">It was the early church father, Tertullian, who made this  pointed and true observation:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;We are not a new philosophy but a divine revelation. That&#8217;s why  you can&#8217;t just exterminate us; the more you kill the more we are. <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">The  blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church</span></strong>. You praise those who  endured pain and death &#8211; so long as they aren&#8217;t Christians! Your cruelties  merely prove our innocence of the crimes you charge against us.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref13" href="#_edn13"><span style="font-size: small;">[13]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">In an antagonistic world, we are called upon to defend the  Gospel. We are not called to defend our own honour. We should be confident of  this: When we defend the Gospel, God will see to it that His name is vindicated.  Christ will judge all nations and all people with absolute justice &amp;  righteousness.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Until that time at the consummation of the age, I do not believe  that governments should set laws that prevent defamation of religion – as the  &#8220;Catch the Fire&#8221; case demonstrated.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Instead, in this Australian democracy, I recommend that we ask  governments to make laws that protect our right to preach &amp; share the  Gospel.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Such laws will bring with them the right for other religions to  proclaim their beliefs. And the laws also will give Christians and other  religions the right to critique each others&#8217; beliefs &amp; practices.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">I believe that this is the greatest opportunity for this  Australian democracy to remain open to the proclamation of the Gospel and the  defence of the faith. </span><a name="_ednref14" href="#_edn14"><span style="font-size: small;">[14]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">We must teach all Christians and especially new believers, to  expect persecution. Until Jesus comes, the offence of the cross means that your  faith will be under attack from everyday human beings as well as by the mass  media.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">What the ABC Compass program broadcast should be expected from  any who do not accept the authority of the Scriptures. Those attacks, as  exemplified by this program, are also coming from within the church by liberal  theologians such as Robert Beckford. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">That gets to some core principles for assessing any teaching  from whatever the source, ABC TV or any other antagonist to the faith. How do  you know what is true and what is false? </span></p>
<h3><strong>D. How do believers tackle any resistance to Christ and  Christians?</strong></h3>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The New Living Translation puts it simply and beautifully:  &#8220;Instead, you must worship Christ as Lord of your life. And if someone asks  about your Christian hope, always be ready to explain it. But do this in a  gentle and respectful way. Keep your conscience clear. Then if people speak  against you, they will be ashamed when they see what a good life you live  because you belong to Christ&#8221; (I Peter 3:15-16). &#8220;Be ready to explain it.&#8221; &#8220;To  explain&#8221; is the Greek <em>apologia</em>, which means to give an apologetic, a  defense of the faith.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">This applies to the ABC Compass program AND to every other  assault on the faith. How do we assess any worldview?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">What is a worldview? James Sire says that &#8220;a world view is a set  of presuppositions (assumptions which may be true, partially true or entirely  false) which we hold (consciously or subconsciously, consistently or  inconsistently) about the basic make-up of our world.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref15" href="#_edn15"><span style="font-size: small;">[15]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">It is like looking at the world through a pair of coloured  belief glasses. Those glasses represent meaning and value in life. They cover  everything that we believe, but they also include what we say and do. What you  believe always leads to your actions in word and deed.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">All of us have presuppositions. Are they fixed and where do they  come from? What do you consider to be the presuppositions or assumptions that a  person brings to a TV program or to listen to me today? Presuppositions are very  often firmly held by the person.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">I want to suggest seven categories of assessing any world and  life view. They can be used to assess, what I will call, &#8220;The Religious Copycat  Theory&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref16" href="#_edn16"><span style="font-size: small;">[16]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> that was promoted by the Compass TV program. This is the view that  Christianity is a copy of some fundamentals of other religions. We&#8217;ll check out  this theory briefly.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">What categories can we use to assess any worldview? These are  some of the fundamentals of assessment. I&#8217;m going to use the outline of Norman  Geisler and William Watkins in their book, <em>Perspectives</em>.</span><a name="_ednref17" href="#_edn17"><span style="font-size: small;">[17]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> This  outline includes <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">seven questions</span></strong>:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">1. What&#8217;s your view of God or ultimate reality?</span><a name="_ednref18" href="#_edn18"><span style="font-size: small;">[18]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">2. What&#8217;s the nature of the world?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">3. Does God intervene in the world? Or, are miracles  possible?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">4. What&#8217;s the nature of human beings?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">5. Evil is real. Where did it come from?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">6. Ethics. Are there right and wrong thoughts and actions in our  universe?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">7. What&#8217;s the nature of history? Where is history  going?</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">I&#8217;ll only have time to investigate the first three of these as  applied to this TV program:</span></p>
<ul>
<li> <span style="font-size: small;"> What&#8217;s the view of God or ultimate reality?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">What&#8217;s the nature of the world? and </span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Does God intervene in the world? That is, are miracles  possible?</span>
<ul></ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Let&#8217;s examine the content of Dr. Beckford&#8217;s documentary under  these headings. Remember, I have only seen the first episode. I will not have  the time to examine each of these points in depth.</span></p>
<h4><span style="font-size: small;">1. </span><a name="_Toc228046265"></a><a name="_Toc227896850"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>What&#8217;s his view of God or ultimate reality?</strong></span></a><a name="_ednref19" href="#_edn19"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>[19]</strong></span></a></h4>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Beckford says that Jesus, Krishna &amp; Buddha have remarkable  similarities and they have parallels with the religions of ancient Egypt &amp;  Persia.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">He says that Jesus is supposed to be exclusive to Christianity  and this story has been promoted for 2,000 years, but that&#8217;s not the  case.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">He claimed that for the Hare Krishna, Christos [Christ] and  Krishna came from the same root word. Krishna is one of the prominent gods of  Hinduism.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">He spoke of a follower of Krishna who said that Jesus was an  incarnation of god. I ask: What&#8217;s the difference between a Hindu incarnation of  a god and Jesus Christ&#8217;s incarnation?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">He claims that the words from the Lord&#8217;s prayer, &#8220;Hallowed be  thy name&#8221; are &#8220;almost the same&#8221; for Krishna. But the exact quote was not given  to prove that this parallel exists. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Beckford interviewed a Hindu Brahmin priest who said: &#8220;Talking  to God &#8212; whoever God is.&#8221; He was a Hindu priest but he did not know who God is.  He sounded like an agnostic.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">This is Beckford&#8217;s understanding of the nature of God. When  Jesus said, according to the Gospel of John, &#8220;I have other sheep that are not in  this fold&#8221; (John 10:16), he was speaking of other religions and acceptance of  their teachings. Beckford spoke of Hindus celebrating the inner light and it  bothers him that Christians have big problems with Hindus because Hindus  experience the kingdom of God by whatever means are best to them. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Also, Beckford said that when Jesus said, &#8220;I am the way, the  truth and the life,&#8221; it was parallel to Buddha&#8217;s understanding of  enlightenment.</span></p>
<h5><a name="_Toc228046266"></a><a name="_Toc227896851"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>a. How  should I respond as a Christian to these statements?</strong></span></a></h5>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">(1) <strong>Was Jesus an incarnation of a god or was he God  Himself?</strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">A Hindu website provided this explanation of what the Hindus  mean by somebody or something being an incarnation of god:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Avatar means to appear, to descend, to take birth or manifest.  In Hinduism, an avatar means the form of a deity and usually refers to an  incarnation of God or His aspects such as Vishnu on planet earth, either as a  man or an animal or some mythical creature. An avatar is not mere  materialization or appearance of God in physical form for the sake of his  devotees. It is neither a disguise nor a trick played upon our senses. God has  been appearing to people from time to time either to pass on some message or  accomplishing some task through the beholder. His voice has been heard by  countless people upon earth either internally through the subtle channels or  externally through actual hearing.</span><a name="_ednref20" href="#_edn20"><span style="font-size: small;">[20]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">So, in Hinduism, an incarnation is &#8220;the form of a deity&#8221; as an  &#8220;appearing to people from time to time&#8221; to give a message that can come through  people hearing a voice internally or externally.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">How does this compare with the incarnation of Jesus  Christ?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Philippians 2:5-8 says this of Jesus Christ when he came to  earth as a human being.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The KJV puts it:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;"><sup></sup>Who, being in the form of God, thought it not  robbery to be equal with God: </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him  the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled  himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the  cross.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The English Standard Version reads:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">Have this mind among yourselves, which is yours in Christ Jesus,  who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing  to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the form of a servant, being  born in the likeness of men. And being found in human form, he humbled himself  by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a  cross.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">When Jesus Christ became a man on earth he was God. The  language, &#8220;form of God&#8221; means &#8220;equality with God.&#8221; Also he was taking the form  of a servant in the likeness of human beings. We know that Jesus did not give up  his divine attributes. We know that &#8220;he knew all people&#8221; and &#8220;he knew himself  what was in man&#8221; (John 2:24-25 ESV). That is, he had divine foreknowledge on  earth.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">John 18:4 speaks of Jesus, that he &#8220;knowing all that would  happen to him&#8221; (ESV).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">He had omnipotent power to rebuke the wind, miraculously feed  the hungry, heal the sick, cast out demons, raise the dead. Christ performed  miracles because of his own inherent power as God on earth.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Surely the miraculous works of Elijah and Elisha didn&#8217;t indicate  that they were God incarnate because they performed them in the power of the  Spirit. However, of Jesus it is stated: &#8220;Now Jesus did many other signs in the  presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; but these are  written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God, and  that by believing you may have life in his name&#8221; (John 20:30-31). Jesus miracles  point to his being the Son of God, God on earth.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Theologian Charles Hodge put it this way:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;Christ, however, wrought miracles by His own inherent power . .  . Christ never referred this miraculous power to any source outside of Himself;  He claimed it as His own prerogative; and He conferred the power upon others. .  . He was God in fashion as a man. He therefore appealed directly to His  works.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref21" href="#_edn21"><span style="font-size: small;">[21]</span></a></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Therefore, </span></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size: small;">(2) The NT identifies Jesus as God.</span></strong></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The TV program was short on exact quotes. When Beckford makes  momentous claims about Jesus, Krishna and Buddha having such remarkable  similarities, it is incumbent on him to present the exact quotes to confirm  this. Otherwise, I will treat his <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">remarkable similarities as remarkable  presuppositions.</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">What about this idea that Jesus is not exclusive to  Christianity?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>(3) </strong><strong>Jesus said, according to John 14:6, &#8220;I am the way  and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me&#8221; (NIV). </strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Beckford says that this is the equivalent of Buddha&#8217;s  &#8220;enlightenment.&#8221; What was Buddha&#8217;s enlightenment?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">One Buddhist website</span><a name="_ednref22" href="#_edn22"><span style="font-size: small;">[22]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> described Buddha&#8217;s  Enlightenment like this: &#8220;One happy Vesak night, as he was seated under the  famous Pippala tree at Buddha Gaya, with mind tranquilized and purified, in the  first watch he developed that supernormal knowledge which enable[d] him to  remember his past lives.</span><a name="_ednref23" href="#_edn23"><span style="font-size: small;">[23]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> In the middle watch he developed vision  dealing with the death and rebirth of beings.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref24" href="#_edn24"><span style="font-size: small;">[24]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Buddha had an experience of personal transformation where he  came to consider others as himself.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">For the Buddhist, this comes through experiencing the Four Noble  Truths and the Eightfold Path.</span><a name="_ednref25" href="#_edn25"><span style="font-size: small;">[25]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The Four Noble Truths are:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">1. First Noble Truth: The existence of suffering;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">2. Second Noble Truth: The cause of suffering is the &#8220;craving  desire for the pleasures of the senses. . .&#8221;;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">3. Third Noble Truth: The ending of suffering happens by giving  up, getting rid of, extinguishing this very craving, so that no passion and no  desire remain.</span><a name="_ednref26" href="#_edn26"><span style="font-size: small;">[26]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">4. Fourth Noble Truth: The ending of all pain through the  Eightfold Path.</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The Eightfold Path is:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">1. First step: Right views (accept the four noble  truths);</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">2. Second step: Right resolve (renounce the pleasures of the  senses);</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">3. Third step: Right speech (&#8221;do not lie, do not slander or  abuse anyone. Do not indulge in idle talk&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref27" href="#_edn27"><span style="font-size: small;">[27]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;">);</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">4. Fourth step: Right behaviour (&#8221;do not destroy any living  creature; take only what is given to you; do not commit any unlawful sexual  act.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref28" href="#_edn28"><span style="font-size: small;">[28]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">5. Fifth step: Right occupation, which is to earn your living in  a way that will harm no-one.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">6. Sixth step: Right effort: &#8220;You must resolve and strive  heroically to prevent any evil qualities from arising . . .&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref29" href="#_edn29"><span style="font-size: small;">[29]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">7. Seventh step: Right contemplation, &#8220;Be observant, strenuous,  alert, contemplative, free of desire and of sorrow.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref30" href="#_edn30"><span style="font-size: small;">[30]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">8. Eighth step: Right meditation, &#8220;When you have abandoned all  sensuous pleasures, all evil qualities, both joy and sorrow, you must then enter  the four degrees of meditation, which are produced by concentration.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref31" href="#_edn31"><span style="font-size: small;">[31]</span></a></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">One Buddhist priest on this TV program said that there were a  &#8220;lot of similarities&#8221; with Christianity. A Tibetan Buddhist leader was asked how  he would explain Jesus as a Buddhist. He said that Jesus is a &#8220;holy being&#8221; and  his thoughts and motivations were similar to Buddha.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">From what I have already expounded on the truth of Jesus Christ,  Jesus is more than a holy being who helps people with rebirth. Jesus is God  Himself as the Bible declares. Jesus&#8217; words are: &#8220;I and the father are one&#8221;  (John 10:30).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">If Jesus is only a &#8220;holy being&#8221;, is this similar to what Jesus  meant when he said that he was the way, the truth and the life in John 14:6 and  that he was the only way to God the Father? You need an imagination to say that  these are parallels.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Jesus was <strong>not</strong> describing anything to do with past lives  and rebirth as Buddha was. He was <strong>not</strong> talking about human effort to  achieve entrance into the Kingdom of God and thus eternal life.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Jesus was the way to God according to the Gospel of John because  of these facts:</span><a name="_ednref32" href="#_edn32"><span style="font-size: small;">[32]</span></a></p>
<ol>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Jesus is the truth of God, &#8220;full of grace and truth&#8221;  (1:14);</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Jesus is the life of God (1:4; 3:15; 11:25);</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Jesus &#8220;has made God known&#8221; or he narrates God (1:18);</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Jesus is the way to God because He does exactly what the Father  gives him to say and so (5:19ff; 8:29);</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Jesus is <strong><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">called God</span></em></strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> because he is  God</span> (1:1, 18; 20:28); These verses say that &#8220;the Word was God&#8221; (1:1). Of  Jesus Christ it states that &#8220;No one has ever seen God; the only God, who is at  the Father&#8217;s side, he has made him known&#8221; (1:18). Of Jesus, &#8220;Thomas answered  him, &#8216;My Lord and my God&#8217;&#8221; (20:28).</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Also, Jesus &#8220;is God&#8217;s gracious self-disclosure, his &#8216;Word&#8217;,  made flesh (1:14)&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref33" href="#_edn33"><span style="font-size: small;">[33]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;">;</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Jesus is the life (also 1:4) as he is the one who has &#8220;life in  himself&#8221; (5:26);</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">He is &#8220;the resurrection and the life&#8221; (11:25);</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">1 John 5:20 says that Jesus is (get this): &#8220;the true God and  eternal life.&#8221;</span></li>
</ol>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">D. A. Carson provides this beautiful summary of Jesus&#8217; exclusive  claims:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;Only because he is the truth and the life can Jesus be the way  for others to come to God, the way for his disciples to attain the many  dwelling-places in the Father&#8217;s house (14:2-3), and therefore the answer to  Thomas&#8217;s question (14:5). In this context Jesus does not simply blaze a trail,  commanding others to take the way that he himself takes; rather, he <em>is</em> the way. . . He is himself the Saviour (4:42), the Lamb of God (1:20, 34), the  one who so speaks that those who are in the graves hear his voice and come forth  (5:28-20). He so mediates God&#8217;s truth and God&#8217;s life that he is the very way to  God . . , the one who alone can say, <em>No-one comes to the Father except  through me</em>.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref34" href="#_edn34"><span style="font-size: small;">[34]</span></a></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">These claims are exclusive to the claims of Christ and  Christianity. They are contrary to the claims of Robert Beckford that Jesus is  not unique. Beckford on &#8220;Compass&#8221; said that &#8220;as a Christian I am not just  following Jesus but also following Buddha.&#8221; No other religious leader comes  close to the uniqueness of the claims of Jesus Christ.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">It was Thomas a Kempis in his book, <em>Of the Imitation </em><em>of Christ</em><em>, who </em>gave this meditation on what Jesus said in  John 14:6. A Kempis says that this is what Jesus emphasised:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;Follow thou me: I am the Way and the Truth and the Life.  Without the Way there is no going; without the Truth there is no knowing;  without the Life there is no living. I AM the Way which thou oughtest follow;  the Truth, which thou oughtest to trust; the life which though oughtest to hope  for. I am the inviolable way; the infallible truth, the never-ending  life. I AM the straightest Way, the infallible Truth, the endless  Life. I AM the straightest Way, the supreme Truth, the blessed, the  uncreated Life.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref35" href="#_edn35"><span style="font-size: small;">[35]</span></a></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">When we examine any worldview, we ask: What&#8217;s your view of God  or ultimate reality?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Secondly we ask:</span></p>
<h4><a name="_Toc228046267"></a><a name="_Toc227896852"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>2.  What&#8217;s the nature of the universe?</strong></span></a></h4>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">I didn&#8217;t see anything in the first episode of this program that  gave me a clear picture of what Beckford was saying about the nature of the  universe. But when you listen to others expounding on this theme, watch for  themes such as:</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;"> Is there evidence that the universe is changing and is  caused?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;"> Are there order and design in the universe?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;"> Who caused this order and design?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;"> From where did evil and violence come?</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">In checking out any belief system, including those on TV, how do  they answer the question about the nature of the universe?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">There&#8217;s a third question to ask of every worldview:</span></p>
<h4><a name="_Toc228046268"></a><a name="_Toc227896853"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>3. Does  God intervene in the world? Or, are miracles possible?</strong></span></a></h4>
<ol>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Beckford says that the ancient Hindu god, Krishna, had a  miraculous birth including an immaculate conception, and this birth was attended  by angels. Krishna was placed in a swing at his birth.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Beckford said that Buddha performed miracles, including feeding  5,000. Thus Beckford believed in supernatural intervention by Buddha. But he  provided no quotes from Buddha&#8217;s writings to confirm that these miracles  happened. This kind of information was provided to try to show that Jesus was  <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span></strong> unique.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Beckford spoke of Lord Krishna and his many miracles but quotes  from Krishna confirming that these miracles had happened in space and time were  absent. I&#8217;m speaking about the lack of exact quotes.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">Beckford raised the issue of Buddha&#8217;s miraculous birth and the  miracles he performed that were similar to those of Jesus, like walking on the  water.</span></li>
</ol>
<h5><a name="_Toc228046269"></a><a name="_Toc227896854"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>a. How  should we as Christians respond to this information?</strong></span></a></h5>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Again, Beckford was short on quotes from Krishna and Buddha so I  was not able to check out the miracles to which he might be referring. Time does  not permit us to look in detail at all of these statements, so I&#8217;ll respond to  his statements about the so-called miraculous birth of the Buddha.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">One Buddhist website said: &#8220;As legend would have it, Siddhartha  Guatama (the Buddha), was born in 623 BC, &#8220;a blatantly precocious prince,&#8221; to  his mother Queen Mahamaya in Lumbini, now modern <strong>Rumindei</strong> in Nepal (about  250km south-west of Katmandu), where he &#8220;was reportedly born out of her right  side while she remained standing.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref36" href="#_edn36"><span style="font-size: small;">[36]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Others say that &#8220;the time of his birth and death are uncertain:  most early 20th-century historians date his lifetime from </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circa"><span style="font-size: small;">c.</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> 563 BCE to 483 BCE; more recently, however, at a specialist symposium on  this question,</span><a name="_ednref37" href="#_edn37"><span style="font-size: small;">[37]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> the majority of those scholars who presented  definite opinions gave dates within 20 years either side of 400 BCE for the  Buddha&#8217;s death, with others supporting earlier or later dates.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref38" href="#_edn38"><span style="font-size: small;">[38]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Alexandra David-Neel wrote this of Buddha: &#8220;Archaeological  discoveries have proved, beyond a doubt, his historical character, but apart  from the legends we know very little about the circumstances of his  life.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref39" href="#_edn39"><span style="font-size: small;">[39]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">This is very different to the virgin conception and birth of  Jesus Christ, which have clear documentation in the New Testament and the  writings of the early church fathers. The Scriptures state that</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;"><sup>&#8220;26</sup>In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to  Nazareth, a town in Galilee, <sup>27</sup>to a virgin pledged to be married to a  man named Joseph, a descendant of David. The virgin&#8217;s name was Mary.  <sup>28</sup>The angel went to her and said, &#8220;Greetings, you who are highly  favored! The Lord is with you.&#8221; </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;"><sup>29</sup>Mary was greatly troubled at his words and wondered  what kind of greeting this might be. <sup>30</sup>But the angel said to her, &#8220;Do  not be afraid, Mary, you have found favor with God. <sup>31</sup>You will be  with child and give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus.  <sup>32</sup>He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High. The  Lord God will give him the throne of his father David&#8221; (Luke 1:26-32  NIV).</span></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">We know what happened. The Virgin Mary conceived miraculously by  God&#8217;s intervention without a man&#8217;s involvement and Jesus was born in  Bethlehem.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Jesus other miracles recorded in the NT were seen and recorded  by eyewitnesses or by interviewing those who &#8220;could speak from firsthand  knowledge and whom they could interview.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref40" href="#_edn40"><span style="font-size: small;">[40]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">I recommend to you Richard Bauckham&#8217;s new book, <em>Jesus and the  Eyewitnesses: The Gospels as Eyewitness Testimony</em>, which provides an  outstanding exposition of this fact that &#8220;the four Gospels are closely based on  the eyewitness testimony of those who personally knew Jesus.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref41" href="#_edn41"><span style="font-size: small;">[41]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">What do those who know other religions well, say about the Hindu  religion? For example, Christian apologist, Ravi Zacharias, writes: &#8220;I came [to  Christ] amid the thunderous cries of a culture that has three hundred and thirty  million deities. I remain with Him knowing that truth cannot be all-inclusive.  Truth by definition excludes.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref42" href="#_edn42"><span style="font-size: small;">[42]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Ravi was a Hindu living in India before he  came to Christ in his teens.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">If you are testing any worldview, as James Sire states, it needs  to have:</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;"> Firstly, Inner coherence.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Professor Keith Yandell of the University of Wisconsin put it  concisely: &#8220;If a conceptual system contains as an essential element (one or more  membered) set of propositions which is logically inconsistent, it is  false.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref43" href="#_edn43"><span style="font-size: small;">[43]</span></a></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: small;"> Secondly, it needs to understand all of the data of reality of  all types that we gain from our conscious experience of daily lives.</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;"> Thirdly, it &#8220;should explain what it claims to explain.&#8221; E.g.  If it says something is right or wrong, on what basis is that judgment made? If  it says that Krishna, Buddha &amp; Jesus were miraculously conceived or born, is  this explained in exactly the same way for each religion? Are we dealing with  the same kinds of facts for Krishna, Buddha and Jesus?</span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;"> Finally, it needs to be personally, subjectively satisfactory  in human experience. It needs to meet our sense of personal need. As James Sire  puts it: &#8220;Truth is ultimately the only thing that will satisfy. But to determine  the truth of a world view, we are cast back on the first three characteristics .  . . internal consistency, adequate handling of data and ability to explain what  is claimed to be explained.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref44" href="#_edn44"><span style="font-size: small;">[44]</span></a></li>
</ul>
<h3><a name="_Toc228046275"></a><a name="_Toc227896860"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>Conclusion</strong></span></a></h3>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Ravi Zacharias had a book published in 2008 that is titled,  <em>New Birth or Rebirth? Jesus Talks with Krishna</em>.</span><a name="_ednref45" href="#_edn45"><span style="font-size: small;">[45]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> In it, he has created a  narrative discussion because Jesus and Krishna, based on these two different  belief systems – Christianity and Hinduism. Jesus &amp; Krishna never actually  had an historical conversation. In an interview about that book, Ravi Zacharias  said:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">The one notion to which all religions subscribe (either  explicitly or implicitly) is the notion of exclusive truth.  Populists like to  deny that premise, but all religions either make this claim or try to covertly  smuggle it in.  My premise is that the popular aphorism that “all religions are  fundamentally the same and only superficially different” simply is not true.  It  is more correct to say that all religions are, at best, superficially similar  but fundamentally different.</span><a name="_ednref46" href="#_edn46"><span style="font-size: small;">[46]</span></a></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">In an earlier book, <em>Jesus Among Other Gods: The Absolute  Claims of the Christian Message</em>, Ravi Zacharias wrote:</span></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">All religions are not the same. All religions do not point to  God. All religions <em>do not say</em> that all religions are the same. At the  heart of <em>every </em>religion is an uncompromising commitment to a particular  way of defining who God is or is not and accordingly, of defining life&#8217;s  purpose.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Anyone who claims that all religions are the same betrays not  only an ignorance of all religions but also a caricatured view of even the  best-known ones. Every religion at its core is exclusive.</span><a name="_ednref47" href="#_edn47"><span style="font-size: small;">[47]</span></a></p></blockquote>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The Compass TV program was a populist example. It wanted to make  Jesus look as though he did not make exclusive claims about himself but that His  claims were in other religions. The claim of Jesus not being unique and that his  teachings can be found in any of the world&#8217;s religions needed to be tested. I  have attempted to do that on a limited scale today.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Jesus is absolutely unique. His claim is very specific: &#8220;I am  the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through  me&#8221; (John 14:6).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Of Jesus Christ, the Bible states: &#8220;And there is salvation in no  one else, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we  must be saved&#8221; (Acts 4:12).</span><a href="http://www.quantcast.com/p-74nI83DsLE6UQ"></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">&#8220;All religions are, at best, superficially similar but  fundamentally different.&#8221; </span><a name="_ednref48" href="#_edn48"><span style="font-size: small;">[48]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Of Jesus, the Scriptures state in Philippians 2:9-10:&#8221;Therefore  God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every  name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth  and under the earth&#8221; (NIV).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Of the Gentile unbelievers who lived in &#8220;debauchery, lust,  drunkenness, orgies, carousing and detestable idolatry&#8221; (as unbelievers live  today), of these I Peter 4:5 states: &#8220;But they will have to give account to him  who is ready to judge the living and the dead&#8221; (NIV).</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Until Jesus comes again, we need governments to do away with  religious vilification legislation so that we can have true freedom of religion  to proclaim the gospel and defend the Christian faith against all  contenders.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Even if there is vilification legislation, as we have here in  Qld., we need to continue to proclaim the Gospel and defend the faith because we  know this: At the name of Jesus, at the end of the age, every knee will bow and  every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the father  (Phil. 2:9-10).</span></p>
<h4><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>Appendix A</strong></span></h4>
<p><strong><span style="font-size: small;">Religion laws don&#8217;t have a prayer in a country with robust  common sense</span><a name="_ednref49" href="#_edn49"><strong><span style="font-size: small;">[49]</span></strong></a></strong></p>
<ul>
<li><strong><span style="font-size: small;">Bob Carr </span></strong></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;">April 18, 2009, <em>Sydney Morning Herald</em></span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">This week we have heard about an increasing international trend  to prosecute religious issues in the courts.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">In Britain cases are being brought under laws such as the  Religious Hatred Act, which makes it a crime to &#8220;stir up&#8221; &#8220;religious hatred&#8221;.  British police have even warned that insulting Scientology would be treated as a  crime.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Such legislation may soon be heading to a statute book near  you.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The Australian Human Rights Commission is finalising a report  almost certain to recommend legislation on religion &#8211; on freedom of religion or  religious vilification &#8211; that would mean similar prosecutions being launched  under national law.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Why do we need this? The last time Australians were asked  whether they wanted freedom of religion embodied in the constitution was in  1988. Showing a robust common sense, they voted a resounding &#8220;no&#8221;. It lost in  every state and territory, with up to 74 per cent against.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Citizens knew in their bones that Australia was one of the  freest countries in the world and that we wouldn&#8217;t make ourselves freer by  inventing new offences.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">So why are we even having this debate? The commission says on  its website it&#8217;s because of &#8220;an increased presence of Muslims, Buddhists,  Hindus, Jews and other religious communities&#8221;.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">This is an extraordinary statement; it undermines the need for  any change in the law. If Australia were a nightmare realm of vilification and  persecution, a dystopia of religious angst, I doubt that Muslims, Buddhists,  Hindus and Jews would settle here in growing numbers. The growth of these  communities is proof positive Australia enjoys freedom of religion.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Another reason nominated by the commission for its inquiry is  &#8220;the shift away from mainstream Christianity, and the rise of Pentacostalism&#8221;.  To which I say, &#8220;So what?&#8221; Or, as the former US president Thomas Jefferson said  when petitioned by a group of Methodists to stem the rising number of Baptists  in newly minted America, &#8220;What business is it of government?&#8221; Why should this  matter be even brought under the purview of a government-funded inquiry?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">If you suspect someone&#8217;s on a mission to agitate non-existent  problems to find a bigger role for himself, contemplate another reason the  commission gives for having this inquiry. It says it wants to assess the effect  of Commonwealth and state laws on the &#8220;war on terror&#8221;.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Leave aside the fact that the Howard government opted not to use  the expression and the Rudd Government never has, anti-terrorism laws are  neutral on religion. Planning to blow up a building or hijack a plane is guarded  against, but the law is silent on the religion of those who might attempt  it.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">But Tom Calma, one of the commissioners, writes that the  terrorism attacks of 9/11 have brought religion squarely back into public debate  and it&#8217;s important people not be &#8220;vilified or alienated because of these  beliefs&#8221;.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">In fact, the Australian responses to September 11 and Bali were  restrained, given the scale of the losses and the provocative hatred behind the  attacks. Straight after September 11, I visited an Islamic school in western  Sydney to make a plea for tolerance. Kerry Chikarovski, the then Opposition  leader, rang me urging protection for Islamic women wearing the hijab. Peter  Beattie attended a Brisbane mosque. John Howard met Islamic clerics. The same  spirit prevailed after Bali.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Calma might ask himself whether a temporarily strained climate  would have been improved by a raft of prosecutions for vilification.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Victoria has a religious vilification statute and in 2004 two  evangelical pastors were prosecuted for remarks they made in a seminar about  Islam. I don&#8217;t respect the views of these pastors. The seminar was a fringe  event for a fringe sect. Best to ignore it. Instead, the costly and drawn-out  legal rigmarole gave Pastor Danny Nalliah the chance to spout in the courts  about &#8220;Sharia by stealth&#8221;. It cost more than $1 million in legal fees.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">In 2004 I distributed reports of this outlandish case round the  NSW cabinet table, saying to colleagues, &#8220;One day we&#8217;ll hear an argument for  this state having religious vilification … well, that legislation implies  prosecution. And that could go anywhere.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Anticipating this objection, the Human Rights Commission hints  it would only recommend civil penalties. This is bogus.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Say that under new laws an Islamic group opted to bring  proceedings against a prominent evangelical Christian for comments about Islam.  And suppose a court imposed a fine. What would happen if that person said he  wouldn&#8217;t pay the fine? Put him in jail? The result would be a wave of sympathy  for the martyr and hostility against his persecutors &#8211; melodrama that did not  exist while Nalliah&#8217;s opinions were simply treated with benign neglect.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Retaliation would likely follow: militant Christians turning up  at mosques with tape recorders to catch an imam &#8220;inciting hatred&#8221; against their  faith, and an action by them in a tribunal or court.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Australia&#8217;s treaty obligations oblige us to sign up for this  brave new world of religious lawsuits, the commission is arguing. On these pages  this week, Jonathan Turley noted that Saudi Arabia was a leading supporter of a  new international ban on religious defamation. Well, if a failure to have  domestic religious vilification laws means Australians being lectured on  religious freedom by Saudi Arabia, I guess we&#8217;ll have to bear it with  equanimity.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Meanwhile, I stick with Jefferson, who said, &#8220;it does me no  injury for my neighbour to say there are 20 gods or no god. It neither picks my  pocket nor breaks my leg.&#8221; After all, &#8220;Truth is great and will prevail if left  to itself&#8221;.</span></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size: small;">Bob Carr is a former premier of NSW.</span></strong></p>
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<h3><strong>Notes:</strong></h3>
<p><a name="_edn1" href="#_ednref1"><span style="font-size: small;">[1]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;">Dr.  Robert Beckford, &#8220;The Hidden Story of Jesus, &#8221; Channel 4 (UK), Faith &amp;  Belief, Debates &amp; Controversies, available from: </span><a href="http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/C/can_you_believe_it/debates/hidden.html"><span style="font-size: small;">http://www.channel4.com/culture/microsites/C/can_you_believe_it/debates/hidden.html</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> [12 April 2009]. This program was telecast on ABC TV Qld, &#8220;Compass,&#8221;  Part 1 on 5 April 2009, Part 2 on 12 April 2009.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn2" href="#_ednref2"><span style="font-size: small;">[2]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> He  was black.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn3" href="#_ednref3"><span style="font-size: small;">[3]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> &#8220;Ramadan in 2009 will start on Friday, the 21st of August and will continue for  30 days until Tuesday, the 19th of September&#8221; [From Guided Ways, available from: </span><a href="http://www.guidedways.com/kb/article-125.html"><span style="font-size: small;">http://www.guidedways.com/kb/article-125.html</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> (cited 13 April 2009)].</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn4" href="#_ednref4"><span style="font-size: small;">[4]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Unless otherwise stated, all Bible quotations are from the English Standard  Version.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn5" href="#_ednref5"><span style="font-size: small;">[5]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Dr.  Mojsov has written the book, Bonjana Mojsov 2005, <em>Osiris:</em> <em>Death and  Afterlife of a God</em>, Malden, MA: Blackwell Publishing.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn6" href="#_ednref6"><span style="font-size: small;">[6]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Rex  Tauati Ahdar, available from BNET Australia at: </span><a href="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m6606/is_2_26/ai_n25360048/?tag=content;col1"><span style="font-size: small;">http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m6606/is_2_26/ai_n25360048/?tag=content;col1</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> [18 April 2009].</span></p>
<pre><a name="_edn7" href="#_ednref7"><span style="font-size: small;">[7]</span></a></pre>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">The three states are Queensland, Tasmania and Victoria. See  respectively, the Anti-Discrimination Act 1991 (Qld) s 124A, s 131A (the  religious vilification provisions were added in 2001, titled &#8221;  Anti-Discrimination Amendment Bill 2001); the Anti-Discrimination Act 1998 (Tas)  s 19, and; the Racial and Religious Tolerance Act 2001 (Vic) s 8. See generally  Garth Blake, &#8216;Promoting Religious Tolerance in a Multifaith Society: Religious  Vilification Legislation in Australia and the UK&#8217; (2007) 81 Australian Law  Journal 386, 393-6, cited as endnote 2 in the Rex Tauati Ahdar article in  ibid.</span></p>
<pre><a name="_edn8" href="#_ednref8"><span style="font-size: small;">[8]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></pre>
<p><span style="font-size: small;">Ibid., p. 1.  The Anti-Discrimination Amendment Bill 2001 (Qld)  s124A, s 126A states: &#8221; A person must not, by a public act, incite hatred  towards, serious contempt for, or severe ridicule of, a person or group of  persons on the ground of the race or religion of the person or members of the  group. . . . </span></p>
<p><a name="_edn9" href="#_ednref9"><span style="font-size: small;">[9]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn10" href="#_ednref10"><span style="font-size: small;">[10]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Bob Carr, a lawyer &amp; former Premier of New South Wales, &#8220;Religion laws don&#8217;t  have a prayer in a country with robust common sense,&#8221; available from: </span><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/religion-laws-dont-have-a-prayer-in-a-country-with-robust-common-sense-20090417-aa4w.html?page=-1"><span style="font-size: small;">http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/religion-laws-dont-have-a-prayer-in-a-country-with-robust-common-sense-20090417-aa4w.html?page=-1</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> [cited 24 April 2009]. See the full article in Appendix A.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn11" href="#_ednref11"><span style="font-size: small;">[11]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Albert Mohler Jr., 17 April 2009, Albert Mohler Blog, &#8220;Should the United Nations  protect religions from defamation?&#8221; available from: </span><a href="http://www.albertmohler.com/blog.php"><span style="font-size: small;">http://www.albertmohler.com/blog.php</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> [18 April  2009].</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn12" href="#_ednref12"><span style="font-size: small;">[12]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> UN  Watch Briefing – UN Watch, 11 March 2009, &#8220;Proposal at U.N. to criminalize  defamation of Islam,&#8221; available from: </span><a href="http://www.unwatch.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=bdKKISNqEmG&amp;b=1285603&amp;content_id=%7bAF491436-ED3D-46F5-8CC4-E14577482787%7d&amp;notoc=1"><span style="font-size: small;">http://www.unwatch.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=bdKKISNqEmG&amp;b=1285603&amp;content_id={AF491436-ED3D-46F5-8CC4-E14577482787}&amp;notoc=1</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> [18 April 2009].</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn13" href="#_ednref13"><span style="font-size: small;">[13]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> <em>Apologeticum</em>, ch. 50, available from: </span><a href="http://www.tertullian.org/works/apologeticum.htm"><span style="font-size: small;">http://www.tertullian.org/works/apologeticum.htm</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> [25 April 2009].</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn14" href="#_ednref14"><span style="font-size: small;">[14]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Some of the above ideas on democracy and freedom of religion are based on Mohler  Jr., loc. cit.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn15" href="#_ednref15"><span style="font-size: small;">[15]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> James W. Sire 1988 (rev.), <em>The Universe Next Door: A Basic World View  Catalog</em>, Downers Grove, Illinois: InterVarsity Press, p. 17.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn16" href="#_ednref16"><span style="font-size: small;">[16]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Another Christian website calls it the &#8220;Pagan Copycat Theory.&#8221; See: The Divine  Evidence, 31 October 2007, available from: </span><a href="http://www.thedevineevidence.com/jesus_similarities.html"><span style="font-size: small;">http://www.thedevineevidence.com/jesus_similarities.html</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> [12 April 2009].</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn17" href="#_ednref17"><span style="font-size: small;">[17]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Norman L. Geisler and William Watkins 1984, <em>Perspectives: Understanding and  Evaluating Today&#8217;s World Views</em>. San Bernadino, California: Here&#8217;s Life  Publishers Inc., p. 21ff.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn18" href="#_ednref18"><span style="font-size: small;">[18]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Ultimate reality is not based on Geisler &amp; Watkins (1984) but from James  Sire (1988), p. 25.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn19" href="#_ednref19"><span style="font-size: small;">[19]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Ultimate reality is not from Geisler &amp; Watkins (1984) but from James Sire  (1988), p. 25.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn20" href="#_ednref20"><span style="font-size: small;">[20]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Hindu website, &#8220;The concepts of Hinduism &#8211; Avatar,&#8221; available from: </span><a href="http://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/concepts/avatar.asp"><span style="font-size: small;">http://www.hinduwebsite.com/hinduism/concepts/avatar.asp</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> [18 April 2009].</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn21" href="#_ednref21"><span style="font-size: small;">[21]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Charles Hodge 1979, <em>Systematic Theology</em> Vol. I, Wm B. Eerdmans Publishing  Company, Grand Rapids, Michigan, pp. 503-504.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn22" href="#_ednref22"><span style="font-size: small;">[22]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> A  Manual of Buddhism, &#8220;The Buddha&#8217;s Enlightenment,&#8221; available from: </span><a href="http://www.geocities.com/mkoay.rm/buddha_enlightenment.html"><span style="font-size: small;">http://www.geocities.com/mkoay.rm/buddha_enlightenment.html</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> [19 April 2009].</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn23" href="#_ednref23"><span style="font-size: small;">[23]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> <em>Pubbenivasanussati Nana &#8211; Reminiscence of Past Births</em>.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn24" href="#_ednref24"><span style="font-size: small;">[24]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> <em>Cutupapata Nana &#8211; Perception of the Disappearing and Reappearing of  Beings</em>.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn25" href="#_ednref25"><span style="font-size: small;">[25]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Based on Josh McDowell &amp; Don Stewart 1983, <em>Handbook of Today&#8217;s  Religions</em>, Here&#8217;s Life Publishers, Inc., San Bernardino, California, p.  307.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn26" href="#_ednref26"><span style="font-size: small;">[26]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn27" href="#_ednref27"><span style="font-size: small;">[27]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn28" href="#_ednref28"><span style="font-size: small;">[28]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn29" href="#_ednref29"><span style="font-size: small;">[29]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn30" href="#_ednref30"><span style="font-size: small;">[30]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn31" href="#_ednref31"><span style="font-size: small;">[31]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn32" href="#_ednref32"><span style="font-size: small;">[32]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> With help from D. A. Carson 1991, <em>The Gospel According to John</em>,  Inter-Varsity Press, Leicester, England and William B. Eerdmans Publishing  Company, Grand Rapids, Michigan, p. 491.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn33" href="#_ednref33"><span style="font-size: small;">[33]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn34" href="#_ednref34"><span style="font-size: small;">[34]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn35" href="#_ednref35"><span style="font-size: small;">[35]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Thomas A Kempis 1973, <em>Of the Imitation of Christ</em>, Keats Publishing Inc.,  New Canaan, Connecticut, pp. 175-176.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn36" href="#_ednref36"><span style="font-size: small;">[36]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Lumbini, available from: </span><a href="http://members.porchlight.ca/blackdog/lumbini.htm"><span style="font-size: small;">http://members.porchlight.ca/blackdog/lumbini.htm</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> [21 April 2009].</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn37" href="#_ednref37"><span style="font-size: small;">[37]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> The endnote given by Wikipedia was, L. S. Cousins 1996, &#8220;The Dating of the  Historical Buddha: A Review Article,&#8221;(Originally published in the <em>Journal of  the Royal Asiatic Society</em>, Series 3, 6.1 (1996): 57-63.), available from: </span><a href="http://indology.info:8107/papers/cousins/"><span style="font-size: small;">http://indology.info:8107/papers/cousins/</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> [21  April 2009].</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn38" href="#_ednref38"><span style="font-size: small;">[38]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Gautama Buddha, Wikipedia, available from: </span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha#cite_note-1"><span style="font-size: small;">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddha#cite_note-1</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> [21 April 2009].</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn39" href="#_ednref39"><span style="font-size: small;">[39]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Alexandra David-Neel 1977, <em>Buddhism: Its Doctrines and Its Methods</em>, New  York: St. Martin&#8217;s Press, p. 15, in Josh McDowell &amp; Don Stewart 1983,  <em>Handbook of Today&#8217;s Religions</em>, Here&#8217;s Life Publishers, Inc., San  Bernardino, California, p. 304.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn40" href="#_ednref40"><span style="font-size: small;">[40]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Richard Bauckham 2006, <em>Jesus and the Eyewitnesses: The Gospels as Eyewitness </em>Testimony, William B. Eerdmans Publishing Company, Grand Rapids, Michigan /  Cambridge, U.K., p. 479.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn41" href="#_ednref41"><span style="font-size: small;">[41]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Ibid., inside flap.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn42" href="#_ednref42"><span style="font-size: small;">[42]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Ravi Zacharias 2000, <em>Jesus Among Other Gods</em>, Nashville: Word Publishing,  p. 6.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn43" href="#_ednref43"><span style="font-size: small;">[43]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> In  James W. Sire, loc. cit., p. 214. Keith E. Yandell 1980, <em>The Epistemology of  Religious Experience</em>, NY, p. 185. A 1994 revised edition is available from  Cambridge University Press.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn44" href="#_ednref44"><span style="font-size: small;">[44]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Ibid., p. 216</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn45" href="#_ednref45"><span style="font-size: small;">[45]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Multnomah Press. </span></p>
<p><a name="_edn46" href="#_ednref46"><span style="font-size: small;">[46]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> An  interview with Ravi Zacharias concerning his book, <em>New Birth or Rebirth?  Jesus Talks with Krishna</em> (Multnomah 2008), &#8220;Ravi Zacharias: Jesus talks with  Krishna,&#8221; Christian Broadcasting Network, available from: </span><a href="http://www.cbn.com/entertainment/books/RaviZ-QA.aspx"><span style="font-size: small;">http://www.cbn.com/entertainment/books/RaviZ-QA.aspx</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> [18 April 2009].</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn47" href="#_ednref47"><span style="font-size: small;">[47]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Ravi Zacharias 2000, <em>Jesus Among Other Gods</em>, Nashville: Word Publishing,  p. 7.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn48" href="#_ednref48"><span style="font-size: small;">[48]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> An  interview with Ravi Zacharias as in footnote no. 45.</span></p>
<p><a name="_edn49" href="#_ednref49"><span style="font-size: small;">[49]</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> Bob Carr, a lawyer &amp; former Premier of New South Wales, &#8220;Religion laws don&#8217;t  have a prayer in a country with robust common sense,&#8221; available from: </span><a href="http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/religion-laws-dont-have-a-prayer-in-a-country-with-robust-common-sense-20090417-aa4w.html?page=-1"><span style="font-size: small;">http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/religion-laws-dont-have-a-prayer-in-a-country-with-robust-common-sense-20090417-aa4w.html?page=-1</span></a><span style="font-size: small;"> [cited 24 April 2009].</span></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is part 4 of a 4 part series.  See:
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Can you trust the Bible? Part 2
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A. Introduction
Josh McDowell relates what happened after a &#8216;free-speech&#8217;  lecture outdoors at a university. A professor approached him (he had brought his  literature class with him) [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3><strong>This is part 4 of a 4 part series.  See:</strong></h3>
<p><a href="../2009/02/23/can-you-trust-the-bible-part-1/"><span style="font-size: small;">Can you trust the Bible? Part 1</span></a></p>
<p><a href="../2009/02/23/can-you-trust-the-bible-part-2/"><span style="font-size: small;">Can you trust the Bible? Part 2</span></a></p>
<p><a href="../2009/02/23/can-you-trust-the-bible-part-3/"><span style="font-size: small;">Can you trust the Bible? Part 3</span></a></p>
<h3><span style="font-size: large;">A. Introduction</span></h3>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Josh McDowell relates what happened after a &#8216;free-speech&#8217;  lecture outdoors at a university. A professor approached him (he had brought his  literature class with him) and said, </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">&#8220;Mr. McDowell, you are basing all your claims about Christ on a  second century document that is obsolete. I showed in class today how the New  Testament was written so long after Christ that it could not be accurate in what  it recorded.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Josh replied, &#8220;Your opinions or conclusions about the N.T. are  25 years out of date.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref1_8577" href="#_ftn1_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[1]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">This professor was basing his opinions on the conclusions of  German critic, F.C. Baur, who assumed that much of the N.T. was not written  until late in the second century A.D.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">However, 20th century archaeology has confirmed the accuracy of  the N.T. manuscripts as FIRST CENTURY documents.</span></p>
<h3><span style="font-size: large;">B. Some of the main N.T. manuscripts</span></h3>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">In this final part of the series, I want to mention some of the  main N.T. MSS that have been found along with endorsement from substantial  historical and archaeological authorities.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">¨The John Rylands papyrus fragment (in John Rylands Library,  Manchester, England) was a significant find. It is the earliest known copy of  any portion of the N.T. It dates from the first half of the second century,  probably A.D.117-138. Written on both sides, it contains portions of 5 verses of  John&#8217;s Gospel (18:31-33, 37-38). Although it&#8217;s only a small fragment, it has  proved to be the closest and most valuable link in the chain of transmission. It  tends to confirm the traditional date for the composition of John, before the  end of the first century. [See photographs in Norman Geisler &amp; William Nix,  <em>A General Introduction to the Bible</em>, p. 388]</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">¨ The Bodmer Papyri (in Library of World Literature at Calagny,  near Geneva) dates from about A.D. 200 or earlier. It contains 104 leaves of the  Gospel of John 1:1-6:11; 6:35b-14:26 and fragments of 40 other pages, John  14-21.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">¨ The Chester Beatty Papyri (in Beatty Museum near Dublin)  consists of three codices and contains most of the N.T. It dates from about A.D.  250 or later. The University of Michigan owns (30 leaves.)</span><a name="_ftnref2_8577" href="#_ftn2_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[2]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">We must not miss the two major MSS:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">(1) Codex Vaticanus (B), dated about 325-350 [a codex is a book  form on parchment or vellum (writing material made from animal skins)]. It  contains most of the Septuagint (LXX) of O.T., most of the N.T., and the  Apocrypha with some exclusions. It&#8217;s housed in the Vatican Library.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">(2) Codex Sinaiticus (Aleph), dated about 340. Regarded as &#8220;the  most important witness to the text because of its antiquity, accuracy and lack  of omissions.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref3_8577" href="#_ftn3_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[3]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> It contains half of O.T., O.T Apocrypha, all  of the N.T. except Mark 16:9-20; John 7:53-8:11; Epistle of Barnabas and large  portion of Shepherd of Hermas. In 1933, British Government purchased it (from  Russia) for 100,000 pounds for the British Museum.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">(3) Codex Bezae (about 450 or 550) is the oldest known bilingual  manuscript of the N.T. Written in both Greek and Latin. Contains 4 gospels,  Acts, 3 John 11-15, with some omissions. It is in the Cambridge University  Library.</span></p>
<h3><span style="font-size: large;">C. What are the experts saying NOW?</span></h3>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Millar Burrows</span></strong> of Yale University says: </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">&#8220;Another result of comparing New Testament Greek with the  language of the papyri [discoveries] is an increase of confidence in the  accurate transmission of the text of the New Testament itself.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref4_8577" href="#_ftn4_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[4]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">William Albright</span></strong>, who was the world&#8217;s foremost  biblical archaeologist when he wrote this: </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">&#8220;We can already say emphatically that there is no longer any  solid basis for dating any book of the New Testament after about AD 80, two full  generations before the date between 130 and 150 given by the more radical New  Testament critics today.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref5_8577" href="#_ftn5_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[5]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">He explains further: </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">&#8220;In my opinion, every book of the New Testament was written by a  baptized Jew between the forties and the eighties of the first century A.D.  (very probably some time between A.D. 50 and 75).&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref6_8577" href="#_ftn6_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[6]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Sir William Ramsay</span></strong> is regarded by many as one of  the greatest archaeologists of all time.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">&#8220;He was a student of the German historical school that taught  that the Book of Acts was a product of the mid-second century A.D. and not the  first century as it purports to be. After reading modern criticism about the  Book of Acts, he became convinced that it was not a trustworthy account of the  facts of that time (A.D. 50) and therefore was unworthy of consideration by a  historian. So in his research on the history of Asia Minor, Ramsay paid little  attention to the New Testament. His investigation, however, eventually compelled  him to consider the writings of Luke. He observed the meticulous accuracy of the  historical details, and gradually his attitude towards the Book of Acts began to  change.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref7_8577" href="#_ftn7_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[7]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Sir William Ramsay</span></strong> concluded:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">&#8220;Luke is a historian of the first rank&#8230; This author should be  placed along with the very greatest of historians.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref8_8577" href="#_ftn8_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[8]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Josh McDowell</span></strong> says that &#8220;because of the accuracy  of the most minute detail, Ramsay finally conceded that Acts could not be a  second-century document but was rather a mid-first-century account.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref9_8577" href="#_ftn9_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[9]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Even theologically liberal scholar, <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Dr. John A.T.  Robinson</span></strong> came to the amazing conclusion that the whole of the New  Testament was written before the fall of Jerusalem in A.D. 70.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref10_8577" href="#_ftn10_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[10]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Professor of ancient history, <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Paul L. Maier</span></strong>,  writes:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">&#8220;Arguments that Christianity hatched its Easter myth over a  lengthy period of time or that the sources were written many years after the  event are simply not factual.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref11_8577" href="#_ftn11_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[11]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Professor Simon Greenleaf</span></strong> of Harvard University  was one of the greatest authorities in the nineteenth-century on the law of  evidence in the common-law world. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">He &#8220;applied to these records [the Gospels] the &#8216;ancient  documents&#8217; rule: ancient documents will be received as competent evidence if  they are &#8216;fair on their face&#8217; (ie. offer no internal evidence of tampering) and  have been maintained in &#8216;reasonable custody&#8217; (ie. their preservation has been  consistent with their content). He concluded that <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">the competence of the  New Testament documents would be established in any court of  law</span>&#8220;</strong></span><a name="_ftnref12_8577" href="#_ftn12_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[12]</span></a></p>
<h3><span style="font-size: large;">D. Testing the Bible and ANY other piece of literature from  history</span></h3>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">To show that the Bible is an accurate and trustworthy book, I  submitted for your consideration three tests:</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"><strong></strong><strong> First: T: The Transmission Test, </strong></span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"><strong></strong><strong> Second: I: the Internal evidence test, </strong></span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"><strong></strong><strong> Third, E: the External evidence test.</strong></span><a name="_ftnref13_8577" href="#_ftn13_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[13]</span></a></li>
</ul>
<h3><span style="font-size: large;">E. A BRIEF test of the Muslim&#8217;s Qur&#8217;an: Subjecting the Quran to  the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">T.I.E.S.</span> test</span></h3>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">The Quran says that it is &#8220;infallible&#8221; [2:2] and  &#8220;inspired.&#8221;</span></p>
<h4><span style="font-size: large;">1. The Transmission Test</span></h4>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">We run into unique difficulties when we submit the Quran to the  &#8220;Transmission Test.&#8221; We can find stacks of manuscripts for the Bible, or parts  of manuscripts, dating back to the second century after Christ. Muhammed lived  from ca. A.D. 570-632.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">&#8220;Although a standard Muslim claim says the Quran has no textual  variations, this is in fact incorrect. No one original manuscript of the Quran  ever existed, since Muhammed (c. 570-632 A.D.) didn&#8217;t write any of it. Instead  various followers wrote scattered revelations on whatever material came to hand,  including pieces of papyrus, tree bark, palm leaves and mats, stones, the ribs  and shoulder blades of animals, etc. Otherwise, they memorized them. These  [kinds of]</span><a name="_ftnref14_8577" href="#_ftn14_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[14]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> materials were susceptible to loss: Ali  Dashti, a Islamic statesman, said animals sometimes ate mats or the palm leaves  on which Suras (chapters of the Quran) were written! After his death, Muhammad&#8217;s  revelations were gathered together to eliminate the chaos. . . .</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">To solve the problems of conflicting memories and possibly lost  or varying written materials, Caliph Uthman (ruled 644-56) had the text of the  Quran forcibly standardized. He commanded manuscripts with alternative readings  to be <span style="text-decoration: underline;">burned</span>. But he didn&#8217;t fully succeed, since variations are still  known to have existed and some still do. The Sura Al-Saff had 200 verses in the  days of Muhammad&#8217;s later wife Ayesha, but Uthman&#8217;s version had only 52. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">[Robert] Morey says Shiite Muslims claim Uthman cut out a  quarter of the Quran&#8217;s verses for political reasons. In his manuscript of the  Quran, Ubai had a few Suras that Uthman omitted from the standardized version.  Arthur Jeffrey, in his <em>Materials for the History of the Text of the  Quran</em>, gives 90 pages of variant readings for the Quran&#8217;s text, finding 140  alone for Sura 2.</span><a name="_ftnref15_8577" href="#_ftn15_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[15]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">The major problem with the Transmission Test for the Quran is  that the Muslims are not interested in it. Allah revealed it to Muhammed and  that&#8217;s good enough for them. They argue in circles:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Muslim: Muhammed was the prophet of God.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">I ask: Why is this true?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Muslim: The Quran says so.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">I ask: Why is the Quran true?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Muslim: Muhammed was the prophet of God.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">I ask: Why is this true?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Muslim: Because the Quran says so.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">I ask: But why is the Quran true?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Muslim: The Quran is without error.</span><a name="_ftnref16_8577" href="#_ftn16_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[16]</span></a></p>
<h4><span style="font-size: large;">2. The Internal Evidence Test</span></h4>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">This yields more fruitful information. The Quran claims it is </span><a name="_ftnref17_8577" href="#_ftn17_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[17]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;">free from error, infallible [Sura  2:2]</span><a name="_ftnref18_8577" href="#_ftn18_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[18]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> It claims that it Consummates All  Scriptures</span><a name="_ftnref19_8577" href="#_ftn19_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[19]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> and is a continuation of the Bible.</span><a name="_ftnref20_8577" href="#_ftn20_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[20]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">But look what we find?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">a. <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Internal self-contradictions</span></strong></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">The Quran claims that it is consistent and without ambiguity  (Sura 39:23, 28).</span><a name="_ftnref21_8577" href="#_ftn21_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[21]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> BUT we find FOUR different versions  (conflicting accounts) of how Muhammed received the Quran.</span><a name="_ftnref22_8577" href="#_ftn22_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[22]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Muhammed says, &#8220;[53:4] It was divine inspiration.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">1. In Sura 53:2-18 and 81:19-24, <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Allah came to Muhammed in  the form of a man</span></strong> with the message of the Quran.</span><a name="_ftnref23_8577" href="#_ftn23_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[23]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">2. Sura 16:102 says <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">it was the Holy Spirit</span></strong> who  came to Muhammed with the message.</span><a name="_ftnref24_8577" href="#_ftn24_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[24]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">3. Sura 15:8 says that <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">the angels came down to  Muhammed</span></strong>.</span><a name="_ftnref25_8577" href="#_ftn25_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[25]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">4. The most popular version is that <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">the angel Gabriel  delivered the Quran to Muhammed</span></strong> (Sura 2:97).</span><a name="_ftnref26_8577" href="#_ftn26_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[26]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Which one was it? You can&#8217;t have infallibility, consistency,  without ambiguity, and 4 different accounts of how Muhammed received the  Quran.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">b. <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Within the Quran you will find examples  of:</span></strong></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> Convenient revelations.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">&#8220;When Muhammed wanted his son-in-law&#8217;s wife, he suddenly got a  revelation from Allah&#8221; declaring it was OK. Sura 33:36-38</span><a name="_ftnref27_8577" href="#_ftn27_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[27]</span></a></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> Legendary Materials;</span><a name="_ftnref28_8577" href="#_ftn28_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[28]</span></a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> Arabian Sources;</span><a name="_ftnref29_8577" href="#_ftn29_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[29]</span></a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> Jewish Sources;</span><a name="_ftnref30_8577" href="#_ftn30_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[30]</span></a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> Heretical Christian sources &#8212; Gnostic gospels and their  fables.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">He has the baby Jesus speaking from the cradle, and Jesus making  clay birds come alive (Sura 3:49; 100:110).</span><a name="_ftnref31_8577" href="#_ftn31_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[31]</span></a></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;">Eastern religious sources;</span><a name="_ftnref32_8577" href="#_ftn32_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[32]</span></a></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">There are major contradictions internally in the Quran.</span></p>
<h4><span style="font-size: large;">3. The External Evidence Test</span></h4>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">This is where we encounter major problems and I have only the  time to give you the tip of the iceberg.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>a. </strong><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Errors in the Quran</span></strong></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">How many days of creation</span>? Eight days (Sura 41:9-10,  12) &#8212; 4 days + 2 days + 2 days = 8 days.</span><a name="_ftnref33_8577" href="#_ftn33_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[33]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> The Bible says 6  days according to Gen. 1:31 and Ex. 20:11</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;">BUT, the Quran ALSO says <span style="text-decoration: underline;">creation took place in 6 days</span>:  [Sura 7:54]</span><a name="_ftnref34_8577" href="#_ftn34_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[34]</span></a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">One of Noah&#8217;s son&#8217;s perished</span> in the Great Flood (Sura  11:42-43)</span><a name="_ftnref35_8577" href="#_ftn35_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[35]</span></a></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">The Bible says that all 3 of Noah&#8217;s sons went into the Ark and  were saved from the Flood (see Gen. 7:1, 7, 13).</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> The Quran says that Noah&#8217;s Ark came to rest on the hills of  Judea (Sura 11:44). The Bible says Mr. Ararat (Asia Minor, in Eastern Turkey),  Gen. 8:4.</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Many mistakes about Abraham</span></span><a name="_ftnref36_8577" href="#_ftn36_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[36]</span></a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;">The Quran says his father&#8217;s name was Azar [Sura 6:74]</span><a name="_ftnref37_8577" href="#_ftn37_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[37]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> The Bible says it was Terah (Gen. 11:27)</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;">It was his son, Isaac, that Abraham went to sacrifice, but the  Quran says that it was Ishmail [Sura 37:100-112].</span><a name="_ftnref38_8577" href="#_ftn38_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[38]</span></a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Mistakes about Bible characters</span>.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">The Quran &#8220;refers to Goliath as Jalut, Korah as Karun, Saul as  Talut, Enoch as Idris, Ezekiel as Dhu&#8217;l-Khifl, John the Baptist as Yahya, Jonah  as Yunus, etc. Muhammed did not have access to the Bible because an Arabic  translation of the Bible was not in existence at that time.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref39_8577" href="#_ftn39_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[39]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Mistakes about Mary, the mother of Jesus</span> Concerning  <em>The Birth of Jesus</em>, the Quran reads:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">[19:22] When she bore him, she isolated herself to a faraway  place. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">[19:23] The birth process came to her by the trunk of a palm  tree. She said, &#8220;(I am so ashamed;) I wish I were dead before this happened, and  completely forgotten.&#8221; </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">[19:24] (<em>The infant</em>) called her from beneath her, saying,  &#8220;Do not grieve. Your Lord has provided you with a stream.” </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">[19:25] &#8220;If you shake the trunk of this palm tree, it will drop  ripe dates for you.” </span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Mistakes from secular history</span>:</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">In Sura 105, &#8220;Muhammed claimed that the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">elephant army of  Abrah</span> was defeated by birds dropping stones of baked clay upon  them.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref40_8577" href="#_ftn40_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[40]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;">,</span><a name="_ftnref41_8577" href="#_ftn41_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[41]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">BUT, &#8220;according to the historical record, Abrah&#8217;s army withdrew  [its] attack on Mecca after small-pox broke out among the troops.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref42_8577" href="#_ftn42_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[42]</span></a></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Scientific problems</span></span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">The sun setting in the ocean and found people there&#8221;  [18:86]</span><a name="_ftnref43_8577" href="#_ftn43_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[43]</span></a></p>
<ul>
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<h1><span style="font-size: large;">Jesus was NOT the son of God, Messiah (Sura 5:17);</span><a name="_ftnref44_8577" href="#_ftn44_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[44]</span></a></h1>
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<p><span style="font-size: large;">To say that Jesus was the son of God was to utter a blasphemy  (Sura 9:30);</span><a name="_ftnref45_8577" href="#_ftn45_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[45]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Jesus was not crucified (Sura 4:157);</span><a name="_ftnref46_8577" href="#_ftn46_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[46]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"> He was NOT fully God and fully human. He was just a messenger  and his mother, Mary, was a saint (Sura 5:75);</span><a name="_ftnref47_8577" href="#_ftn47_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[47]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">&#8220;The utter contradiction between the biblical and quranic view  of Jesus cannot be dismissed easily.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref48_8577" href="#_ftn48_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[48]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">What can we conclude about the Quran?</span><a name="_ftnref49_8577" href="#_ftn49_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[49]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">1. Devoted Muslims believe that the doctrines of Islam came from  Allah and have a heavenly source;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">2. Middle Eastern scholars have shown that the rituals and  beliefs of Islam were there in Arabian culture BEFORE Muhammed had his supposed  revelations.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">3. Muhammed didn&#8217;t preach anything new. &#8220;Even the idea of &#8216;only  one God&#8217; was borrowed from the Jews and the Christians.</span><a name="_ftnref50_8577" href="#_ftn50_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[50]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">4. This means that the religion of Islam is not revealed from  heaven as it claims, but is an invented religion.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">5. &#8220;Western scholars have concluded that Allah is not God,  Muhammed was not his prophet and the Quran is not the Word of God.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref51_8577" href="#_ftn51_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[51]</span></a></p>
<h3><span style="font-size: large;">If you want further information comparing the Bible and the  Quran, I&#8217;d recommend these references:</span></h3>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">1. &#8220;The Bible and the Qur&#8217;an: An Historical Comparison,&#8221;  available at </span><a href="http://debate.org.uk/topics/history/bib-qur/contents.htm"><span style="font-size: large;">http://debate.org.uk/topics/history/bib-qur/contents.htm</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> (Retrieved June 23, 2002)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">2. &#8220;Is the Quran the Word of God?&#8221; available at: </span><a href="http://debate.org.uk/topics/history/debate/debate.htm"><span style="font-size: large;">http://debate.org.uk/topics/history/debate/debate.htm</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> (This is an excellent one by Jay Smith, Hyde Park Christian Fellowship,  London, who has debated Muslims and has an active ministry among  Muslims.)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">3. The book, <em>Islam Unveiled: The True Desert Storm</em>,  Robert A. Morey. Shermans Dale, PA: The Scholars Press, 1991.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">For people to accept the Bible&#8217;s evidences, I put to you that  there is a fourth dynamic, rather than a test.</span></p>
<h3><span style="font-size: large;">F. Fourth Dynamic</span></h3>
<p><strong><span style="font-size: large;">&#8220;S&#8221; for the Spirit of Conviction from the Holy Spirit of  God</span></strong></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Go to the Bible and what do you find?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Ephesians 4:17-19</span></strong>: &#8220;So I tell you this, and insist  on it in the Lord, that you must no longer live as the Gentiles do, in the  futility of their thinking. They are darkened in their understanding and  separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to  the hardening of their hearts. Having lost all sensitivity, they have given  themselves over to sensuality so as to indulge in every kind of impurity, with a  continual lust for more.&#8221;</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;">The non-Christians are futile in their thinking;</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;">They are darkened in their thinking;</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> Because of their ignorance, they are separated from the life  of God;</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> A life of no sensitivity, sensuality, impurity, lust is their  lifestyle. [Sounds like the rebels and abusers I deal with daily in my  counselling work.]</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">What is it going to take to get these people interested in what  the Word of God says about them, life abundantly in the here and now, and  eternal life?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">I Corinthians 2:14</span></strong> gives some profound answers:  &#8220;The man without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit  of God, for they are foolishness to him, and he cannot understand them, because  they are spiritually discerned.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">What is the Bible saying?</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> Unless God opens the eyes of the unbelievers by His Spirit,  the Word of God will be foolishness to them. They will not understand the Word.  As we witness, as we share about the trustworthiness of the Word of God, we MUST  pray that God will open the eyes of the unbeliever by the Holy Spirit.</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">I Cor. 12:3</span></strong> says: &#8220;. . . no one can say, &#8216;Jesus  is Lord,&#8217; except by the Holy Spirit&#8221; (NIV).</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> This led <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">John Calvin</span></strong> to write: &#8220;The Word of God  is like the sun, shining upon all those to whom it is proclaimed, but with no  effect among the blind. Now, all of us are blind by nature in this respect.  Accordingly, it cannot penetrate into our minds unless the Spirit, as the inner  teacher, through his illumination makes entry for it. . . Christ, when he  illumines us into faith by the power of his Spirit, at the same time so engrafts  us into his body that we become partakers of every good.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref52_8577" href="#_ftn52_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[52]</span></a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> As you give reasons for the existence of God; as you show the  Bible to be reliable and trustworthy, PRAY, PRAY, PRAY. Pray for God&#8217;s Holy  Spirit to open the eyes of the spiritually blind person to whom you are  witnessing.</span></li>
</ul>
<h3><span style="font-size: large;">G. What can we conclude?</span></h3>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Josh McDowell concludes, and I enthusiastically agree with him:  There is &#8220;more evidence for the reliability of the N.T. than for almost any ten  pieces of classical literature put together.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref53_8577" href="#_ftn53_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[53]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Let&#8217;s revisit and example I gave at the beginning of this 4-part  series:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">I said that I believe that the Bible is completely true. It is  without error in all that it affirms. Not just in matters of faith and practice.  If it speaks about history, science, counselling, marriage, family, sex, the  nature of human beings, the nature of society, what&#8217;s wrong with our world, how  to fix our country and the world, etc. &#8212; it gives us the truth about all of  these matters. I believe that the Bible is without error in everything that it  affirms.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">You might ask, &#8220;But surely you&#8217;re not referring to translations  such as the King James Version, the New International Version, the Revised  Standard Version, the New American Standard Bible, etc.? You must be referring  to the original manuscripts of the Bible and NOT modern translations.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">I say, &#8220;You are correct. I am referring to the originals.  Scribes and translators have introduced some variations into later  versions.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">You are justified in responding: &#8220;We don&#8217;t have the originals.  You are convinced that some Bible documents that you have never seen (some  hypothetical documents), some NT documents that NOBODY has seen for 2,000 years,  are completely truthful. Sounds like you are living in fantasyland. Maybe the  Mental Health Unit is the place for you.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref54_8577" href="#_ftn54_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[54]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">How can I possibly state that the original MSS which I have  never seen and nobody has EVER seen for about 2,000 years can possibly be true  in everything that they affirm?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">I trust that the answer to my statements has become clearer. We  can reproduce the <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">content of the originals</span></strong> on the basis of  excellent MSS evidence. Evidence that is so good that it leaves the other MSS  from history for dead. The evidence is outstanding.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Many people have developed arguments against the excellent Bible  MSS that they would NOT raise concerning any other document from history.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Surely we are entitled to discuss things that we have never seen  first-hand. I have never seen our Australian Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd. Must I,  therefore, assume that Kevin does not exist and that I cannot assess his  policies.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">I have never seen an atom, or black holes in the universe, or  music on a tape, or the wind, or the life principle within me, etc.  I have never seen my own brain or anybody else&#8217;s brain.  Does that mean these do not exist?</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">All we are asking as believers in the Bible, is to use the  standard methods for establishing the reality of <strong>any MSS from history</strong> and  then evaluate those MSS. Surely you and I are entitled to evaluate these MSS.  That is all I am asking for in evaluating the MSS of the Bible.</span><a name="_ftnref55_8577" href="#_ftn55_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[55]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Do you realise that even if we did not have such excellent MSS  evidence, we could construct </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">&#8220;Almost the entire New Testament from quotations in the church  fathers of the second and third centuries. Only eleven verses are missing,  mostly from 2 and 3 John. Even if all the copies of the New Testament had been  burned at the end of the third century, we could have known virtually all of it  by studying these writings&#8221; from the early church leaders.</span><a name="_ftnref56_8577" href="#_ftn56_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[56]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Some believers back off from stating the teaching that the Bible  is without error in all that it affirms (inerrancy) because they think it is  unprovable when we don&#8217;t have the original inspired writings and this doctrine  only applies to the original documents.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">I enthusiastically support the conclusion of Norman Geisler and  Ron Brooks:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">&#8220;If we can be this certain of the text of the New Testament and  have an Old Testament that has not changed in 2,000 years, then <em>we don&#8217;t need  the originals to know what they said</em>. The text of our modern Bibles is so  close to the original text that we can have every confidence that what it  teaches is truth.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref57_8577" href="#_ftn57_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[57]</span></a></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Let&#8217;s conclude:</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> I have not been able to find any Bible verse that says that we  MUST have a pure text of the Bible down through history;</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;">There&#8217;s a pile of evidence to show that the Bibles we have  today, even translations, are &#8220;extremely close to the original, inspired  manuscripts that the prophets and apostles wrote.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref58_8577" href="#_ftn58_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[58]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> We have excellent  evidence to show that the Bibles of today represent the original MSS &#8220;with a  very high degree of accuracy, like no other book from the ancient  world.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref59_8577" href="#_ftn59_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[59]</span></a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> &#8220;Such reliability helps support [my] claim that the Bible is  valuable as a historical account as well as a revelation from God.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref60_8577" href="#_ftn60_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[60]</span></a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> We can say with confidence: The Bible is God&#8217;s Word;</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> This teaching comes with the authority of Jesus Christ  Himself. (I haven&#8217;t had the time to expound on that teaching);</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;">Jesus confirmed the inspiration and authority of the Old  Testament and the promised New Testament.</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Of the OT, Jesus said</span></strong> in John 10:35 that it is the  &#8220;Word of God . . . and Scripture cannot be broken&#8221; (ESV). Luke 16:17 (ESV), &#8220;But  it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one dot of the Law to  become void.&#8221; </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Of the soon to be written NT</span></strong>, Jesus said: John  14:26 (ESV), &#8220;But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my  name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have  said to you.&#8221; [See also John 16:13.]</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">&#8220;If Jesus, who is God in the flesh and always spoke the truth,  said that the Old Testament was the Word of God and that the New Testament would  be written by His apostles and prophets as the sole authorized agents for His  message, then our entire Bible is proven to be from God. We have it on the best  of authority &#8212; Jesus Christ Himself.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref61_8577" href="#_ftn61_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[61]</span></a></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> Jesus and the apostles gave evidence that the Bible is without  error (inerrant) in what it teaches about all matters;</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> This is even &#8220;down to the tenses of verbs and the very last  letters of words&#8221;;</span><a name="_ftnref62_8577" href="#_ftn62_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[62]</span></a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> The Bible you read in English today is God speaking to  you.</span><a name="_ftnref63_8577" href="#_ftn63_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[63]</span></a></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">According to Matthew 7:21-23, Jesus said, &#8220;Not everyone who says  to me, &#8216;Lord, Lord,&#8217; will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the  will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, &#8216;Lord,  Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and  perform many miracles?&#8217; Then I will tell them plainly, &#8216;I never knew you. Away  from me, you evildoers!&#8217;&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Jesus was very clear:</span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> One day you will give an account for your life;</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> On that day, the crucial question will be, &#8220;What place did the  REAL Jesus have in your life?&#8221;</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> If what Jesus said is <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span></strong> true, if 80% of what  he said <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">was made up by the early church</span></strong> and didn&#8217;t even come from  the mouth of Jesus;</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> Then the sooner we conduct the funeral for Christianity the  better;</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> Down through the centuries, many have tried to do that and  millions would like to do that today;</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> If the words of Jesus are not true, we might as well bring  pokies into the church buildings; make our auditoriums into bingo halls;</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> Put the Bible into the museum;</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> Christian workers, pastors, missionaries should STOP wasting  their time;</span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-size: large;"> We should stop the persecution of Christians immediately  because this Christianity is a FAKE;</span></li>
</ul>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">HOWEVER, since Christ&#8217;s teaching is the truth, the Bible is  reliable and trustworthy Word of God, we must take a very different view.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">The REAL Jesus, who lives in you and me and in the church, is  the one who radically changes lives. He&#8217;s the Jesus of history, who is the SAME  as the Jesus of faith.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">There is a radical answer to those who come to see me who are  rebels, destroying themselves and their families;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">There&#8217;s a profound answer for the sexually abused, the drug  addicted and the blasphemers;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">There is NEW LIFE in Jesus Christ – radical new life. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">We must KNOW and proclaim REAL Christianity and not that of  radical, liberal heretics who only want us to believe 18% of what Jesus  said.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">I have presented what I believe are some solid reasons for  accepting the Bible as a thoroughly trustworthy and reliable book from God to  us. Some of you might have thought I was too intellectual. But please remember:  God does not promise to reveal himself to us to satisfy intellectual curiosity.  If you want to justify your unbelief, you will NEVER discover the God who is  real, the Bible that is trustworthy, and the Christ of the cross who is the  resurrected Lord.</span><a name="_ftnref64_8577" href="#_ftn64_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[64]</span></a></p>
<h3><span style="font-size: large;">Conclusion:</span></h3>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">Dr Jim Kennedy tells the story of &#8220;the man who fell off a cliff,  and on his way down, he managed to grab a limb sticking out from the side of the  earthen wall. He wasn&#8217;t a praying man, but he called out to God anyway and asked  for help. Then he heard a voice saying, &#8216;Just believe &#8212; and let go.&#8217; He  hesitated for a moment and then said, &#8216;Uh, is there anybody else up  there?&#8217;</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">&#8220;The Christian faith doesn&#8217;t operate that way. It&#8217;s not a matter  of looking for a God who requires the least of us or who simply sounds the best  of all the choices. Our faith is rational and reasonable. It&#8217;s based on  well-grounded facts of history. The apostle Peter sums it up by saying, &#8216;We did  not follow cleverly invented stories when we told you about the power and coming  of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were eyewitnesses of his majesty&#8217;(2 Peter  1:16).&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref65_8577" href="#_ftn65_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[65]</span></a></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size: large;">Please remember: It is only God by his Holy Spirit who opens  the eyes of the blind.</span></strong></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">An unknown Christian said:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">&#8220;This Book [the Bible] is the mind of God, the state of man, the  way of salvation, the doom of sinners, and the happiness of believers. Its  doctrines are holy, its precepts are binding; its histories are true, and its  decisions are immutable [i.e. unchangeable]. Read it to be wise, believe it to  be safe, practice it to be holy. It contains light to direct you, food to  support you, and comfort to cheer you. It is the traveler&#8217;s map, the pilgrim&#8217;s  staff, the pilot&#8217;s compass, the soldier&#8217;s sword, and the Christian&#8217;s character.  Here paradise is restored, heaven opened, and the gates of hell disclosed.  Christ is its grand subject, our good its design, and the glory of God its end.  It should fill the memory, rule the heart, and guide the feet. Read it slowly,  frequently, prayerfully. It is a mine of wealth, a paradise of glory, and a  river of pleasure. Follow its precepts and it will lead you to Calvary, to the  empty tomb, to a resurrected life in Christ; yes, to glory itself, for  eternity.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: large;">&#8220;One measure of your love for God is your love for God&#8217;s  Word&#8221;</span></span></strong><a name="_ftnref66_8577" href="#_ftn66_8577"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: large;">[66]</span></span></span></a></p>
<h3><span style="font-size: large;">Appendix</span></h3>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">A criticism that is often made against the Bible is that  Christians argue in circles. The charge goes like this: Christians claim that  the Bible is the inspired Word of God, and to prove it, they quote a passage  from the Bible that says so. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">This kind of argumentation is known as begging the question or  circular reasoning. Nothing is proved by it. It is based on assuming something  is true, but using that assumption as fact to prove another assumption.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">But there is no need to do this. Instead of assuming the Bible  to be the Word of God, we can begin by:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>1.</strong> Demonstrating that the Scriptures are reliable  historical documents.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>2.</strong> In these documents, Jesus claims to be God in human  flesh, and he bases His claim on His forthcoming resurrection.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>3.</strong> We examine the evidence for the resurrection in this  historic document and find that the arguments overwhelmingly support the fact  that Christ actually rose from the dead. This demonstrates that He is the unique  Son of God, that He claimed to be. If He is God, then He speaks with authority  on all matters.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong>4.</strong> Since Christ is God, then He speaks the truth  concerning the absolute divine authority of the Old Testament (Matt. 5:17,18;  15:1-4) and the soon-to-be written New Testament.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">[Jesus "promised His disciples, who either wrote or had control  over the writing of the New Testament books, that the Holy Spirit would bring  all things back to their remembrance (John 14:26)." So, "we can insist, with  sound and accurate logic, that the Bible is God's word. This is not circular  reasoning. It is establishing certain facts and basing conclusions on the sound  logical outcome of these facts. The case for Christianity can be established by  ordinary means of historical investigation."</span><a name="_ftnref67_8577" href="#_ftn67_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[67]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;">]</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Note:</span></strong><strong> </strong>The above 4 points seem to be an  abbreviated version, taken from John W. Montgomery&#8217;s points for the &#8220;<strong>crux  validation</strong>&#8221; of the New Testament:</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">1. On the basis of accepted principles of textual and historical  analysis, the Gospel records are found to be trustworthy historical documents &#8212;  primary source evidence for the life of Christ,</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">2. In these records, Jesus exercises divine prerogatives and  claims to be God in human flesh; and He rests His claims on His forthcoming  resurrection.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">3. In all four Gospels, Christ&#8217;s bodily resurrection is  described in minute detail; Christ&#8217;s resurrection evidences His deity.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">4. The fact of the resurrection cannot be discounted on <em>a  priori</em>, philosophical grounds; miracles are impossible only if one so  defines them &#8212; but such definition rules out proper historical  investigation.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">5. If Christ is God, then He speaks the truth concerning the  absolute divine authority of the Old Testament and of the soon-to-be-written New  Testament.</span><a name="_ftnref68_8577" href="#_ftn68_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[68]</span></a></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size: large;">Notes:</span></strong></p>
<p><a name="_ftn1_8577" href="#_ftnref1_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[1]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Josh McDowell, <em>More Than a Carpenter</em>, pp. 41-42.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn2_8577" href="#_ftnref2_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[2]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> The above details are from Norman L. Geisler and William E. Nix, <em>A  General Introduction to the Bible: Revised and Expanded</em>. Chicago: Moody  Press, 1968 [1986], pp 388-391.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn3_8577" href="#_ftnref3_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[3]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Ibid., p. 392.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn4_8577" href="#_ftnref4_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[4]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Millar Burrows, <em>What Mean These Stones</em>. New York: Meridian Books,  1956, </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">p. 52, in Josh McDowell, <em>More Than a Carpenter</em>, p.  42.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn5_8577" href="#_ftnref5_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[5]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> William F. Albright, <em>Recent Discoveries in Bible Lands</em>. New York:  Funk and Wagnalls, 1955, p. 136, in McDowell, ibid..</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn6_8577" href="#_ftnref6_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[6]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> William F. Albright, <em>Christianity Today</em>, Vol. 7, January 18,  1963, p. 3, in McDowell, ibid., p. 43.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn7_8577" href="#_ftnref7_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[7]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> McDowell, ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn8_8577" href="#_ftnref8_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[8]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Sir William Ramsay, The Bearing of Recent Discovery on the  Trustworthiness of the New Testament. London: Hodder and Stoughton, 1915, p.  222, in McDowell, ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn9_8577" href="#_ftnref9_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[9]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> McDowell, ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn10_8577" href="#_ftnref10_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[10]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Paraphrase of John A.T. Robinson, <em>Redating the New Testament</em>.  London: SCM Press, 1976, by McDowell, ibid., 43-44.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn11_8577" href="#_ftnref11_8577"></a><span style="font-size: large;">[11] Paul L.  Maier, <em>First Easter: The True and Unfamiliar Story</em>. New York: Harper and  Row, 1973), p. 122, in McDowell, ibid., p. 45.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn12_8577" href="#_ftnref12_8577"></a><span style="font-size: large;">[12] John Warwick  Montgomery, <em>Human Rights and Human Dignity</em>. Grand Rapids, Michigan:  Zondervan Publishing House, 1986, p.137, emphasis added. The full details are in  Simon Greenleaf, <em>The Testimony of the Evangelists, Examined by the Rules of  Evidence Administered in Courts of Justice</em>. Grand Rapids, Michigan: Baker  Book House, 1984. The article, &#8220;The Testimony of the Evangelists&#8221; by Simon  Greenleaf is in Montgomery, <em>The Law Above the Law</em>, Appendix, pp. 91-140.  &#8220;This article examines the testimony of the evangelists by the rules of evidence  administered in courts of justice&#8221; (Montgomery, <em>The Law…</em>, n1, p. 149).  The article is from the <em>Soney &amp; Sage </em>(Newark, N.J.) edition of  1903.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn13_8577" href="#_ftnref13_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[13]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;">C. Sanders, <em>Introduction to Research in English Literary History</em>.  New York: MacMillan Company, 1952, pp. 143 ff.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn14_8577" href="#_ftnref14_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[14]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> The original said &#8220;disparate.&#8221; </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;"> [15] &#8220;Is the Bible the Word of God? Appendix A,&#8221; Eric V. Snow. Retrieved on June 23, 2002, from: </span><a href="http://www.rae.org/bibref.html"><span style="font-size: large;">http://www.rae.org/bibref.html</span></a></p>
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<p><a name="_ftn16_8577" href="#_ftnref16_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[16]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Based on Robert A. Morey, <em>Islam Unveiled</em>. Shermans Dale, PA: The  Scholars Press, 1991, pp. 126-127.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn17_8577" href="#_ftnref17_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[17]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Most of this information I obtained from, ibid., &#8220;A Scientific  Understanding of the Quran, p.125ff.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn18_8577" href="#_ftnref18_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[18]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> From An Authorized English Version of the Quran, translated from the  original by Rashad Khalifa, Ph.D. Retrieved on June 29, 2002, from </span><a href="http://www.submission.org/suras/sura2.htm"><span style="font-size: large;">http://www.submission.org/suras/sura2.htm</span></a><span style="font-size: large;">, &#8220;The  Heifer,&#8221; 2:2, &#8220;This scripture is infallible; a beacon for the righteous.&#8221; All  quotations from the Quran will be from this online edition.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn19_8577" href="#_ftnref19_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[19]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> [2:89] When this scripture came to them [the Israelites] from GOD, and  even though it agrees with, and confirms what they have . . . </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">[2:91] When they are told, &#8220;You shall believe in these  revelations of GOD,&#8221; [the Quran] they say, &#8220;We believe only in what was sent  down to us.&#8221; Thus, they disbelieve in subsequent revelations, even if it is the  truth from their Lord, and even though it confirms what they have! Say, &#8220;Why  then did you kill GOD&#8217;s prophets, if you were believers?&#8221; </span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn20_8577" href="#_ftnref20_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[20]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> [2:136] Say, &#8220;We believe in GOD, and in what was sent down to us, and in  what was sent down to Abraham, Ismail, Isaac, Jacob, and the Patriarchs; and in  what was given to Moses and Jesus, and all the prophets from their Lord. We make  no distinction among any of them. To Him alone we are submitters.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn21_8577" href="#_ftnref21_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[21]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Sura 39:23 &#8220;GOD has revealed herein the best Hadith; a book that is  consistent . .&#8221; Sura 39:28 &#8220;An Arabic Quran, without any ambiguity.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn22_8577" href="#_ftnref22_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[22]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Morey, p. 141.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn23_8577" href="#_ftnref23_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[23]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> [53:4] It was divine inspiration. [53:5] Dictated by the Most Powerful.  [53:6] Possessor of all authority. From His highest height. [53:7] At the  highest horizon. [53:8] He drew nearer by moving down. [53:9] Until He became as  close as possible. [53:10] He then revealed to His servant what was to be  revealed. [53:11] The mind never made up what it saw. </span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn24_8577" href="#_ftnref24_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[24]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> &#8220;The Holy Spirit has brought it down from your Lord, truthfully, to  assure those who believe, and to provide a beacon and good news for the  submitters.&#8221; </span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn25_8577" href="#_ftnref25_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[25]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> [15:7] &#8220;Why do you not bring down the angels, if you are truthful?&#8221; </span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn26_8577" href="#_ftnref26_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[26]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Sura 2:97: &#8220;Anyone who opposes Gabriel should know that he has brought  down this (Quran) into your heart, in accordance with GOD&#8217;s will, confirming  previous scriptures, and providing guidance and good news for the believers.&#8221; </span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn27_8577" href="#_ftnref27_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[27]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> [33:36] No believing man or believing woman, if GOD and His messenger  issue any command, has any choice regarding that command. Anyone who disobeys  GOD and His messenger has gone far astray. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">[33:37] Recall that you said to the one who was blessed by GOD,  and blessed by you, &#8220;Keep your wife and reverence GOD,&#8221; and you hid inside  yourself what GOD wished to proclaim. Thus, you feared the people, when you were  supposed to fear only GOD. When Zeid was completely through with his wife, we  had you marry her, in order to establish the precedent that a man may marry the  divorced wife of his adopted son. GOD&#8217;s commands shall be done. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">[33:38] The prophet is not committing an error by doing anything  that is made lawful by GOD. Such is GOD&#8217;s system since the early generations.  GOD&#8217;s command is a sacred duty. </span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn28_8577" href="#_ftnref28_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[28]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> See Morey, 143.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn29_8577" href="#_ftnref29_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[29]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Ibid., p. 144.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn30_8577" href="#_ftnref30_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[30]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn31_8577" href="#_ftnref31_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[31]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> [3:49] As a messenger to the Children of Israel: &#8220;I come to you with a  sign from your Lord &#8211; I create for you from clay the shape of a bird, then I  blow into it, and it becomes a live bird by GOD&#8217;s leave. I restore vision to the  blind, heal the leprous, and I revive the dead by GOD&#8217;s leave. I can tell you  what you eat, and what you store in your homes. This should be a proof for you,  if you are believers. </span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn32_8577" href="#_ftnref32_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[32]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Morey, p. 147;</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn33_8577" href="#_ftnref33_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[33]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> [41:9] Say, &#8220;You disbelieve in the One who created the earth in two  days, and you set up idols to rank with Him, though He is Lord of the universe.&#8221;  41:10] He placed on it stabilizers (mountains), made it productive, and He  calculated its provisions in four days, to satisfy the needs of all its  inhabitants. . . [41:12] Thus, He completed the seven universes in two days, and  set up the laws for every universe. And we adorned the lowest universe with  lamps, and placed guards around it. Such is the design of the Almighty, the  Omniscient. Ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn34_8577" href="#_ftnref34_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[34]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> [Sura 7:54] &#8220;Your Lord [Allah] is the one GOD, who created the heavens  and the earth in six days, then assumed all authority.&#8221; [10:3] &#8220;Your only Lord  is GOD; the One who created the heavens and the earth in six days, then assumed  all authority.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn35_8577" href="#_ftnref35_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[35]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> [11:42] As it sailed with them in waves like hills, Noah called his son,  who was isolated: &#8220;O my son, come ride with us; do not be with the  disbelievers.&#8221; [11:43] He said, &#8220;I will take refuge on top of a hill, to protect  me from the water.&#8221; He said, &#8220;Nothing can protect anyone today from GOD&#8217;s  judgment; only those worthy of His mercy (will be saved).&#8221; The waves separated  them, and he was among those who drowned. </span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn36_8577" href="#_ftnref36_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[36]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Morey, p. 135.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn37_8577" href="#_ftnref37_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[37]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> [6:74] Recall that Abraham said to his father Azar, &#8220;How could you  worship statues as gods? I see that you and your people have gone far astray.&#8221; </span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn38_8577" href="#_ftnref38_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[38]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> [37:107] We ransomed (Ismail) by substituting an animal sacrifice. </span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn39_8577" href="#_ftnref39_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[39]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Morey, p. 137.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn40_8577" href="#_ftnref40_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[40]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Ibid., p. 139.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn41_8577" href="#_ftnref41_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[41]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> [105:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">[105:1] Have you noted what your Lord did to the people of the  elephant? [My addition: the elephant army of Abrah.]</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">[105:2] Did He not cause their schemes to backfire? </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">[105:3] He sent upon them swarms of birds. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">[105:4] That showered them with hard stones. </span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: large;">[105:5] He made them like chewed up hay. </span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn42_8577" href="#_ftnref42_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[42]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Morey, p. 139. His footnote reference is: Alfred Guillaume,  <em>Islam</em>. London: Penguin Books, 1954, pp. 21f.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn43_8577" href="#_ftnref43_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[43]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> [18:86] When he reached the far west, he found the sun setting in a vast  ocean, and found people there. We said, &#8220;O Zul-Qarnain, you can rule as you  wish; either punish, or be kind to them.&#8221; </span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn44_8577" href="#_ftnref44_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[44]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> [5:17] Pagans indeed are those who say that GOD is the Messiah, the son  of Mary. Say, &#8220;Who could oppose GOD if He willed to annihilate the Messiah, son  of Mary, and his mother, and everyone on earth?&#8221; To GOD belongs the sovereignty  of the heavens and the earth, and everything between them. He creates whatever  He wills. GOD is Omnipotent</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn45_8577" href="#_ftnref45_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[45]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> [9:30] The Jews said, &#8220;Ezra is the son of GOD,&#8221; while the Christians  said, &#8220;Jesus is the son of GOD!&#8221; These are blasphemies uttered by their mouths.  They thus match the blasphemies of those who have disbelieved in the past. GOD  condemns them. They have surely deviated. </span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn46_8577" href="#_ftnref46_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[46]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> [4:157] And for claiming that they killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of  Mary, the messenger of GOD. In fact, they never killed him, they never crucified  him &#8211; they were made to think that they did. All factions who are disputing in  this matter are full of doubt concerning this issue. They possess no knowledge;  they only conjecture. For certain, they never killed him. </span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn47_8577" href="#_ftnref47_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[47]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> [5:75] The Messiah, son of Mary, is no more than a messenger like the  messengers before him, and his mother was a saint. Both of them used to eat the  food. Note how we explain the revelations for them, and note how they still  deviate! </span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn48_8577" href="#_ftnref48_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[48]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Morey, p. 147.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn49_8577" href="#_ftnref49_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[49]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Based on ibid., p. 153.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn50_8577" href="#_ftnref50_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[50]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn51_8577" href="#_ftnref51_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[51]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn52_8577" href="#_ftnref52_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[52]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> John T. McNeill (ed.), Ford Lewis Battles (transl.). <em>Calvin:  Institutes of the Christian Religion</em>. Philadelphia: The Westminster Press,  1960, Book 3, ch. 2, No. 34 -35, pp. 582-583.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn53_8577" href="#_ftnref53_8577"></a><span style="font-size: large;">[53] McDowell,  <em>More Than a Carpenter</em>, p. 46.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn54_8577" href="#_ftnref54_8577"></a><span style="font-size: large;">[54]This approach  was suggested in Vignette 2, &#8220;The Missing Originals,&#8221; by Winfried Corduan,  Reasonable Faith: Basic Christian Apologetics. Nashville, Tennessee: Broadman  &amp; Holman Publishers, 1993, p.183.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn55_8577" href="#_ftnref55_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[55]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> This solution is suggested in &#8220;Response to Vignette 2,&#8221; in ibid., pp.  203-204.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn56_8577" href="#_ftnref56_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[56]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Norman Geisler and Ron Brooks, <em>When Skeptics Ask: A Handbook on  Christian Evidences</em>. Wheaton, Illinois: Victor Books, 1990, p. 160.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn57_8577" href="#_ftnref57_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[57]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn58_8577" href="#_ftnref58_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[58]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Ibid., p. 157.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn59_8577" href="#_ftnref59_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[59]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn60_8577" href="#_ftnref60_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[60]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Ibid.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn61_8577" href="#_ftnref61_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[61]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Ibid., p. 144.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn62_8577" href="#_ftnref62_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[62]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Ibid., p. 161.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn63_8577" href="#_ftnref63_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[63]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> These points are based on ibid., pp. 157-161, but mostly pp.  160-161.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn64_8577" href="#_ftnref64_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[64]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Some of these points suggested by David Watson, <em>My God Is Real</em>.  Westchester, Illinois: Good News Publishers, 1970, p.9.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn65_8577" href="#_ftnref65_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[65]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;">D. James Kennedy, <em>Skeptics Answered: Handling Tough Questions About  the Christian Faith</em>. Sisters, Oregon: Multnomah Books, 1997, p. 29.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn66_8577" href="#_ftnref66_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[66]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> <em>Our Daily Bread</em>, March 11, 1987, &#8220;A Book to Be Loved.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn67_8577" href="#_ftnref67_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[67]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> Josh McDowell &amp; Don Stewart, <em>Answers to Tough Questions</em>. San  Bernardion, California: Here&#8217;s Life Publishers, 1980, pp. 147-148.</span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn68_8577" href="#_ftnref68_8577"><span style="font-size: large;">[68]</span></a><span style="font-size: large;"> John Warwick Montgomery, <em>The Suicide of Christian Theology</em>.  Minneapolis, Minnesota: Bethany Fellowship Inc., 1970, n. 58, p. 306. Montgomery  writes that this summary is based on his book, <em>Shape of the Past</em>, n. 26,  pp. 138-39.</span></mce></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[A.W. Tozer: &#8220;What we believe about God is the most important thing about  us.&#8221;[2]
Philosopher, Mortimer Adler: &#8220;More consequences for thought and action follow  the affirmation or denial of God than from answering any other basic  question.&#8221;[3]
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong></strong><a name="_ftnref1_8822" href="#_ftn1_8822"></a>A.W. Tozer: &#8220;What we believe about God is the most important thing about  us.&#8221;<a name="_ftnref2_8822" href="#_ftn2_8822">[2]</a></p>
<p>Philosopher, Mortimer Adler: &#8220;More consequences for thought and action follow  the affirmation or denial of God than from answering any other basic  question.&#8221;<a name="_ftnref3_8822" href="#_ftn3_8822">[3]</a></p>
<h2><strong>A. Why we must start with the existence of God when witnessing to  Aussies who do not believe in God.</strong></h2>
<h3><strong>1. The direct statement of the Bible:</strong></h3>
<p>&#8220;Without faith it is impossible to please God, because <em>anyone who comes to  him must believe that he exists</em> and that he rewards those who earnestly seek  him&#8221; (Hebrews 11:6).</p>
<h3><strong>2. The Bible&#8217;s example of how to reach non-theists:</strong></h3>
<p>At the Areopagus (Mars Hill)&#8211;Acts 17:16-34, Paul used three principles for  sharing the gospel with agnostics (those who did not know if God existed):</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">(a) Appeal to general revelation (e.g. creation) [vv. 22-29</span></p>
<ul>
<li> God is the Creator of the universe (v. 24);</li>
<li>God is the Sustainer of life (vv. 25, 28a);</li>
<li>God is the Ruler of the nations (vv. 26-27);</li>
<li>God is the Father of human beings (vv. 28b-29);</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">(b) Argue the necessity of judgment [vv. 29-31a]</span></p>
<p>Judgment is an essential part of the gospel message.</p>
<ul>
<li> It will be universal (<em>will judge the world </em>&#8211; v. 31);</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> The standard will be righteous (<em>justice </em>v. 31);</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> It is definite judgment; the day has been set and the Judge has been  appointed (v. 31);</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> Christ&#8217;s resurrection is proof that He will be both Lord and Judge (v. 31).</li>
</ul>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">(c) Announce the good news [v. 30, 31b]</span></p>
<h4>Summary:</h4>
<ul>
<li> There is the God;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> There is judgment;</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> There is the Saviour.</li>
</ul>
<p>John Stott wrote:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Many people are rejecting our gospel today not because they perceive it to  be false, but because they perceive it to be trivial. People are looking for an  integrated world-view which makes sense of all their experience. We learn from  Paul that we cannot preach the gospel of Jesus without the doctrine of God, or  the cross without creation, or salvation without judgment. Today&#8217;s world needs a  bigger gospel, the full gospel of Scripture, what Paul later in Ephesus was to  call &#8216;the whole counsel of God&#8217; (Acts 20:27, NEB, RSV).&#8221;<a name="_ftnref4_8822" href="#_ftn4_8822">[4]</a></p></blockquote>
<h2><strong>B. What are some of the reasons people give for not believing in  God?</strong></h2>
<ul>
<li> He&#8217;s just a figment of the imagination&#8211;he&#8217;s an invented fantasy.</li>
<li> He&#8217;s a crutch.</li>
<li> How could you possibly believe in an all-loving, all-powerful God with all  the evil, illness and suffering in the world?</li>
<li> Surely you can&#8217;t discount all the other great religions: Buddhism, Islam,  Hinduism, Shintoism, Taoism, etc.?</li>
<li>You can&#8217;t trust the Bible.</li>
<li>We live in a modern, scientific age when there is no room for this nonsense  about a God whom you can&#8217;t see. What you see it what you get.</li>
<li> Evolution is a natural phenomenon, needing no room for a supreme  being.</li>
<li>Besides science and the Bible contradict.</li>
<li>Jesus is just another guru.</li>
<li>There are far too many hypocrites in the church. Why would I want to join  them?</li>
<li> To believe in God is irrational. I&#8217;m a reasonable human being. If you can&#8217;t  prove it to me, I won&#8217;t believe in it. Christianity is unreasonable.</li>
<li>Then there&#8217;s this gobble-dee-gook about miracles.</li>
<li> I want no association with those holy-roller yahoos down the road.</li>
<li>God is in the same category as the tooth fairy and Santa Claus.</li>
<li> I used to believe in those things but now I have grown out of  them.</li>
</ul>
<h2><strong>C. What are the practical implications?</strong></h2>
<p>1. What difference will it make in life if human beings regard themselves as  in charge of their own lives and so in charge of the universe? Or, on the other  hand, what if there is a Supreme Being whom we fear, love, is a power to be  defied, or is the Lord to be obeyed?</p>
<p><strong>If I am in charge:</strong></p>
<ul>
<li> what happens when a loved one is murdered in cold blood?</li>
<li>What about disasters like September 11? What about the tsunami in the Indian  Ocean?</li>
<li>What can I do about water in drought after the dams, barrages and wells  have run dry?</li>
<li>What can I do to stop the horrible crimes in my city or elsewhere in the  world?</li>
<li>Do I have the power to change a sexual abuser (perpetrator) into a  law-abiding citizen?</li>
<li>Who causes the tides to rise; plants to flower; <a href="http://www.threetowners.com/whales.htm">whales to return to Hervey Bay</a> and <a href="http://www.totaltravel.com.au/travel/qld/bundaburg/bundaberg/attractions/amusement/mon-repos-turtle-rookery">turtles  to Mon Repos</a> every year?</li>
<li>What makes murder, stealing, lying, etc. wrong?</li>
</ul>
<p>2.<strong> </strong>If we acknowledge a divine being/thing, does it matter:</p>
<ul>
<li><span style="text-decoration: underline;">if the divine is</span> just a concept of God (something in our head that  is nothing more than an intellectual idea)?</li>
<li>does it matter <span style="text-decoration: underline;">if the divine is</span> just something for us to speculate  or argue about in the smoko room, over a beer at the pub, or in university  philosophy classes?</li>
<li>does it matter <span style="text-decoration: underline;">if the divine is</span> the living God whom people worship  in all their acts of worship and who is the Creator and Boss of the  universe?</li>
</ul>
<h2><strong>D. People who reject God most often fall into two  categories:</strong></h2>
<h5>1. Atheists</h5>
<p>Atheists believe that God does not exist.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Observations</span>:</p>
<p><em><strong>a. It is always more difficult to prove what is <span style="text-decoration: underline;">not</span> than what  <span style="text-decoration: underline;">is</span>.</strong></em></p>
<p>&#8220;Say, for example, I call downstairs to my wife in the morning telling her  that I can&#8217;t find my socks. She says,</p>
<p>&#8216;Fuzzy Wuzzy Was A Woman!&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8216;They&#8217;re in the spare room.&#8217;</p>
<p>I look for a few moments then yell downstairs, &#8216;No they&#8217;re not!&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8216;Yes they are,&#8217; she replies.</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s much easier for her to prove her case. If she comes upstairs and finds  them, she was right. Even if she can&#8217;t find them straight away, she may still be  right if they are found later. To prove my case I have to search every inch of  the room, leaving absolutely no space unexplored. She will only have been proved  wrong when I have done all this.&#8221;<a name="_ftnref5_8822" href="#_ftn5_8822">[5]</a></p>
<p>Atheism is like that. It can only be proved true if every single piece of  information in the whole universe is uncovered and all of it at the same time  (just in case God hides from us in one place while we are looking in another).  This is an impossible task.</p>
<p>Only the most arrogant human beings would claim to know everything. Yet  without this knowledge, no atheist can say that he/she is <span style="text-decoration: underline;">absolutely sure</span> that God does not exist.</p>
<p>The atheist can offer no leak-proof argument that God does not exist.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a statement of faith supported by supposed philosophical arguments,  personal experience, the informed opinion of experts, but in the end it falls  flat because no <span style="text-decoration: underline;">absolute proof</span> can be found.</p>
<p><strong>So the statement, &#8220;There is no God,&#8221; has <em>&#8216;UNPROVED&#8217;</em> written all over it.</strong></p>
<p><em><strong>b. Could you imagine living every day under the pressure of somebody  finding evidence that God <span style="text-decoration: underline;">does</span> exist and therefore foul up your entire  way of living</strong>?</em></p>
<p>It&#8217;s a very insecure position. Like the socks, any moment could prove the  wife right. I can only be right at the end of a long search.</p>
<p>George Bernard Shaw, an atheist and the mind behind <em>My Fair Lady</em>,  illustrates just how insecure this position is:</p>
<p>&#8220;The science to which I pinned my faith is bankrupt. I believed it once. In  its name I helped destroy the faith of millions of worshippers in the temples of  a thousand creeds. And now they look at me andwitness the tragedy of an atheist who has lost his faith.&#8221;<a name="_ftnref6_8822" href="#_ftn6_8822">[6]</a></p>
<p><em><strong>c. Where&#8217;s the power?</strong></em></p>
<p>Since when has atheism changed a drug addict into a decent, law-abiding  member of society. How many hospitals, retirement villages, leprosariums,  humanitarian projects have been founded and continue, based on atheistic ideals?</p>
<p>Atheism has no moral power to change lives.</p>
<h2>2. Agnostics</h2>
<p>An agnostic is unsure whether there is a God or not. Maybe, maybe not! Some  get quite aggressive about it: &#8220;We can&#8217;t be certain about anything, so I won&#8217;t  make a decision either way.&#8221; This person is an agnostic who will not budge.</p>
<p>The agnostic sits on the fence.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Imagine for a moment that you are drowning at sea and two boats arrive to  rescue you. they arrive just as you are going down for the third time. You know  that one of the boats has a bomb on it and will be blown up within minutes, but  you don&#8217;t know which boat. Because you know only one of the boats can be  trusted, you choose to stay in the &#8217;safety&#8217; of the water. Sure enough, one of  the boats sinks like a stone and the other sails off into the safety of a  harbour. You drown! You were so right about only one boat being safe, but so  wrong about your decision to stay in the water. Dead wrong! At least on the boat  you had a fifty/fifty chance of success.&#8221;<a name="_ftnref7_8822" href="#_ftn7_8822">[7]</a></p></blockquote>
<p>The agnostic is like that. He ignores the only two options: there is a God or  there is not a God. So he always makes the wrong choice.</p>
<p>For people who want moral help, the atheist can say, &#8220;Forget it. Stand on  your dig and get on with life.&#8221; The Christian says the loving, caring God is  available <strong>now</strong>. But for the agnostic, there is only scepticism, confusion  and doubt.</p>
<p>At some point in your looking for answers, not knowing is a reasonable place  to be for a short time, but its a nightmare to live in.</p>
<h2><strong>E. Some Sign Posts to God&#8217;s Existence</strong><a name="_ftnref8_8822" href="#_ftn8_8822">[8]</a></h2>
<p>There are very few things in life that are as certain as 1+1=2. I know my  wife loves me because she says so and does loving things to and with me, but I  do not have a fool proof way of knowing she absolutely loves me. But I have the  kind of proof needed in court, proof beyond reasonable doubt. That&#8217;s the kind of  proof we need for life.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s all we need to know that God exists. God has left sign posts all over  the world.</p>
<h5><strong>1. Order &amp; design in the universe</strong></h5>
<p>If the earth were closer to the sun we would be fried; if further away we  would freeze to death.</p>
<p>Think of life itself. Plants give off oxygen that human beings need. Human  beings breathe out carbon dioxide that plants need.</p>
<p>Just think of the wonder of what happens when a woman&#8217;s egg (ovum) joins with  man&#8217;s sperm. From that joining comes legs, hair, skin, blood, brain, heart and  other organs of the body. Have you ever thought of the complexity of the human  eye?</p>
<p>Chance seems a shoddy way to explain it. God&#8217;s designer label is spread out  across the universe.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;Sir Isaac Newton, one of the great scientists of the seventeenth century,  once built a model of the solar system to help him in his studies. One of his  atheistic scientist friends came to see him one day and asked who made the  model. &#8216;Nobody!&#8217; Newton replied. When the scientist accused him of being  ridiculous, Newton explained that if no one had a problem in realizing that a  model needed a maker, why as it such a problem when confronted with the real  universe?&#8221;<a name="_ftnref9_8822" href="#_ftn9_8822">[9]</a></p></blockquote>
<h5><strong>2. Our desires</strong></h5>
<p>We get hungry, thirsty and cold. Even a deep search among primitive tribes in  the jungle reveals that there is a belief in some kind of God or gods. We have a  deep desire for worship.</p>
<p>In spite of Communists banning it, atheists rejecting it, dictators abusing  it, intellectuals scoffing at it, and governments suppressing it&#8211;it is still  there. As maths whiz and philosopher, Pascal, put it back in the 17th century:  There&#8217;s a God-shaped vacuum in every one of us.</p>
<h5><strong>3. We know right from wrong</strong></h5>
<p>Don&#8217;t we agree that murder, rape, stealing, telling lies, greed, selfishness,  and mugging are wrong?</p>
<p>Our daily talk gives it away: &#8220;How could he do such a thing to an innocent  child?&#8221; Why is there such an outcry against juvenile vandalism and graffiti?  When teenagers abuse their parents, why the protest?</p>
<p>When a father sexually abuses his 8-year-old, why the fuss if there is no  God?</p>
<p>If the atheist is correct and there is nobody we are responsible to, why  should we care about values? As Russian author, Fyodor Dostoevsky, said: &#8220;If God  is dead everything is permitted.&#8221;<a name="_ftnref10_8822" href="#_ftn10_8822">[10]</a></p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;In other words, if there is no transcendent standard of the good, then there  can ultimately be no way to distinguish right from wrong, good from evil, and  there can be no saints or sinners, no good men or bad men. If God is dead,  ethics is impossible.&#8221;<a name="_ftnref11_8822" href="#_ftn11_8822">[11]</a></p></blockquote>
<p>Where do these moral values come from?</p>
<h5><strong>4. The purpose of life</strong></h5>
<p>What are we on earth for? We have deep needs for purpose. If there is no God,  the universe is just a huge accident. Our life is a fluke.</p>
<p>The average atheist lives life without an awareness of the awful consequences  of atheism. Living life without purpose drives many people to suicide.</p>
<p>I find that this is the fundamental problem for our youth who are committing  suicide. Hopelessness is what dominates their lives. Mum and Dad are splitting  up. They go to school, TAFE, university and there still might not be a job for  them &#8212; on the dole for the rest of their lives. So they get into drugs, sex and  thrash music. Nothing worth living for, except this moment. Life is without  purpose. Hopeless.</p>
<p>This is the problem in Russia today&#8211;hopelessness.</p>
<p>I ask you: What answers can you give that will stop Australia from becoming  another Bosnia? What will stop another Hitler from arising on the world stage?</p>
<p>As Ravi Zacharias puts it: &#8220;It is evident that life without God is not  working. The question really should be, What is going to keep the whole world  from becoming another Bosnia?&#8221;<a name="_ftnref12_8822" href="#_ftn12_8822">[12]</a></p>
<h5><strong>5. Somebody made the universe</strong></h5>
<p>Everything that is an effect was caused by something. Nothing just happens.  We are forced to ask: who or what started the universe in the beginning? Chance  or luck <em>cause</em> nothing. They are just a description when we don&#8217;t have any  other answer.</p>
<p>The other alternative is that God started it. This world is here because God  exists and he made it.</p>
<h5><strong>6. Many people have met Him</strong></h5>
<p>Millions of person have met God and have a personal relationship with Him.  They may be doctors or brickies, tribes people from Africa or sophisticated  university intellectuals. He has changed crooks into law-abiding citizens. He  specialises in taking rebels and making them submit to him. It is very difficult  to write all of these people off as fanatics or cranks.</p>
<h5><strong>7. Meet Jesus Christ</strong></h5>
<p>He said, &#8220;Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father&#8221; (John 14:9). God has  come to earth in the person of Jesus Christ. He lived among us. We know what God  is like by seeing Jesus in action&#8211;healing, compassion on the destitute,  chastising the religious self-righteous, and offering salvation to all by dying  as a common criminal for the sins of the world.</p>
<p>I visited a prison and met a prisoner who had a reputation of being the &#8220;religious&#8221; one in the group.  He openly quoted Scripture.  When I spoke with him he told me that he had committed his life to Jesus Christ as Lord since he came to prison.  He is openly sharing Christ with all the prisoners he meets.  He told me of how his wicked life was turned around when he met Jesus Christ personally.</p>
<hr size="1" /><a name="_ftn1_8822" href="#_ftnref1_8822"></a>[1]With lots of help from  Stephen Gaukroger,<em> It Makes Sense</em>. London: Scripture Union, 1989,  chapter 1, &#8220;Can I really believe in God?&#8221;</p>
<p><a name="_ftn2_8822" href="#_ftnref2_8822"></a>[2]In Paul Little, <em>Know What  You Believe</em>. Wheaton, Illinois: Victor Books, 1970, p. 25.</p>
<p><a name="_ftn3_8822" href="#_ftnref3_8822"></a>[3]Mortimer Adler, <em>Great  Books of the Western World</em>, ed. Robert Maynard Hutching, vol. 2. Chicago:  <em>Encyclopaedia Britannica</em>, 1952, p. 561. Quoted in Paul Little, <em>Know  Why You Believe</em>. Wheaton, Illinois: Victor Books, 1987, p. 21.</p>
<p><a name="_ftn4_8822" href="#_ftnref4_8822"></a>[4]John R.W. Stott, <em>The  Message of Acts</em> (The Bible Speaks Today). Leicester, England: Inter-Varsity  Press, 1990, p. 290.</p>
<p><a name="_ftn5_8822" href="#_ftnref5_8822"></a>[5]Stephen Gaukroger, <em>It  Makes Sense</em>. London: Scripture Union, 1989, p. 8.</p>
<p><a name="_ftn6_8822" href="#_ftnref6_8822"></a>[6]G. B. Shaw, <em>Too True to be  Good</em>. Constable &amp; Co. Quoted in Gaukroger, p. 9.</p>
<p><a name="_ftn7_8822" href="#_ftnref7_8822"></a>[7]Gaukroger, p. 11.</p>
<p><a name="_ftn8_8822" href="#_ftnref8_8822"></a>[8]Adapted from Gaukroger, 12  ff.</p>
<p><a name="_ftn9_8822" href="#_ftnref9_8822"></a>[9]Gaukroger, p. 13.</p>
<p><a name="_ftn10_8822" href="#_ftnref10_8822"></a>[10]In <em>The Brothers  Karamazov</em> (1880), quoted in James W. Sire, <em>The Universe Next Door</em>.  Downers Grove, Illinois: InterVarsity Press, 1988, p.118.</p>
<p><a name="_ftn11_8822" href="#_ftnref11_8822"></a>[11]Sire, p. 118.</p>
<p><a name="_ftn12_8822" href="#_ftnref12_8822"></a>[12]Ravi Zacharias, <em>Can Man  Live Without God?</em> Dallas: Word Publishing, 1994, 51.</p>
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I was talking with a Christian who was devastated by a program he had seen on  SBS TV, &#8220;Jesus to Christ.&#8221;[1]
This show featured some scholars who claimed that the Gospels (Matthew, Mark,  Luke and John) are essentially myth and could not be trusted as historical  documents. My friend was so upset [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<h3><a name="_Toc201639255">A. Introduction</a></h3>
<p>I was talking with a Christian who was devastated by a program he had seen on  SBS TV, &#8220;Jesus to Christ.&#8221;<a name="_ednref1" href="#_edn1">[1]</a></p>
<p>This show featured some scholars who claimed that the Gospels (Matthew, Mark,  Luke and John) are essentially myth and could not be trusted as historical  documents. My friend was so upset by what he heard that he said to me, &#8220;I am  shocked. My faith has been shaken to the core. I am numb in disbelief. As a  Christian, have I been living a fantasy all this time?&#8221;</p>
<p>This TV show featured scholars who were doubters about Bible content. If you  read <em>Jesus: A Revolutionary Biography</em><a name="_ednref2" href="#_edn2">[2]</a> by John Dominic Crossan, you will learn that Luke 2:41-52,  the story of Jesus&#8217; youthful wisdom, and Luke 4:1-30, Jesus&#8217; wisdom in finding  and interpreting a certain passage from Isaiah, is (wait for it): &#8220;<em>Lukan  propaganda</em>.&#8221;<a name="_ednref3" href="#_edn3">[3]</a> It was propaganda made up  by Luke.</p>
<p>Crossan also concludes, as &#8220;history&#8217;s best guess,&#8221; that Jesus was not born in  Bethlehem, but &#8220;was born, <em>possibly</em> . . . to Joseph and Mary at Nazareth.  . . . He was born into but not necessarily as the first of a large family and  had at least six siblings. <em>The rest is mythology</em>, telling us much about  Jesus&#8217; later followers but nothing about Jesus&#8217; earlier origins, telling us how  future history might be founded but not at all how past history had happened.&#8221;<a name="_ednref4" href="#_edn4">[4]</a></p>
<p>In other words, the early church created some of this information in the  Gospels and the Gospels contains myth. It didn&#8217;t happen historically but was  invented by the Gospel writers or the early church.</p>
<p>When you read or listen to the mass media at Christmas and Easter times, you  generally will hear from those who do not believe the Gospel and do not trust  the historical authenticity of the Bible. You&#8217;ll hear people like Crossan, John  Shelby Spong, and others who doubt the Bible. You might get the occasional  orthodox believer.</p>
<p>There is a new breed of Bible bashers in the world today. These scholars have  been in the closets of academic institutions. But no more! They are taking their  message to the world through the popular mass media – newspapers, magazines,  television, radio, writing their own books at a popular level, and the Internet.  They could have their message of tearing into the Bible in <em>Time</em> magazine<a name="_ednref5" href="#_edn5">[5]</a>, any of the leading Australian  newspapers, TV current affairs, radio news and talk-back shows.</p>
<p>In building a case to support Bishop Spong&#8217;s opposition to fundamentalism,  there was an article in <em>The Canberra Times</em>, titled, &#8220;The Gospel Truth?&#8221;<a name="_ednref6" href="#_edn6">[6]</a> In my view, the journalist used a number of  unfair methods to distort the views of Bible-believing Christians. I was living  in Canberra at the time, so I submitted an article as a right of reply and  <em>The Canberra Times</em> published it as &#8220;Distorting the Gospel Truth.&#8221;<a name="_ednref7" href="#_edn7">[7]</a></p>
<p>Use your favourite search engine on the www and make a search for the  teachings of Anglican Primate of Australia, Dr. Peter Carnley, Archbishop of  Canterbury Rowan Williams, John Shelby Spong, John Dominic Crossan, Robert Funk  and Burton Mack. You might be surprised at what you&#8217;ll find that is antagonistic  to the Gospels and the reliability of the Bible.</p>
<p>Many of these doubters and destroyers come from within the church. How will  your faith deal with their destructive claims about God, Christ and the Bible?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a new kind of missionary group that is very active in the world  today. Greg Koukl, a Christian apologist, says that they &#8220;practice evangelism in  reverse. . . They don&#8217;t want you to commit your life to the Christ of the  Gospels; they want you to surrender that commitment. And they claim to have  history, science and scholarship on their side. They call themselves The Jesus  Seminar.&#8221;<a name="_ednref8" href="#_edn8">[8]</a> This new group has been active  since 1985.<a name="_ednref9" href="#_edn9">[9]</a></p>
<p>When you see these people in the mass media or hear their teaching in some  churches or on the www, how will you respond?</p>
<p>What about our youth who may get this doubt and castigation in high school  and university classrooms? Has the church adequately prepared its people for  this tirade against God, the Bible and Jesus?</p>
<p>These are some of the newspaper headlines these scholars have grabbed:<a name="_ednref10" href="#_edn10">[10]</a></p>
<ul>
<li> &#8220;Scholars Say Jesus Was Often Misquoted.&#8221;<a name="_ednref11" href="#_edn11">[11]</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> &#8220;Jesus Didn&#8217;t Claim to Be Messiah, Scholars Say.&#8221;<a name="_ednref12" href="#_edn12">[12]</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> &#8220;Lord&#8217;s Prayer Not Jesus&#8217;s, Scholars Say.&#8221;<a name="_ednref13" href="#_edn13">[13]</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> &#8220;Jesus Never Predicted His Return, Scholars Say.&#8221;<a name="_ednref14" href="#_edn14">[14]</a></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> &#8220;Jesus Didn&#8217;t Promise to Return, Bible Scholars Group Says.&#8221;<a name="_ednref15" href="#_edn15">[15]</a></li>
</ul>
<p>This is only a sample, but they could be repeated many times over in our mass  media.</p>
<p>What will you do, Christian leader, when one of your flock comes to you with  questions from these newspaper articles? What answers will you provide? Are you  simply going to say, &#8220;Go read your Bible&#8221; or &#8220;Make sure you are at mid-week  Bible study and keep up your devotions and praying&#8221;?</p>
<p>When I say that &#8220;I believe in Jesus Christ and that the Bible is a dependable  record,&#8221; which TV news reporter will rush for an interview with me? I&#8217;m not  waiting. What will happen f you claim to be a Bible scholar and make this kind  of statement? &#8220;I <em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">don&#8217;t</span></em> believe in the traditional, historical  Jesus Christ; the Gospels cannot be trusted, contain myth, and were made up by  Christians long after the events of the Gospels.&#8221; Say that and you will have the  media pounding on your doorstep. That&#8217;s news and it makes sense for the  journalists to be interviewing scholars about a story – with a difference.</p>
<p>Then add the September 11 disaster, the cyclone that devastated Burma, the  horror of the earthquake in China, the tsunami, and we have lots of questions  being thrown at Christian believers: How can you believe in such a God who  allows or sends these? He must be a brute!</p>
<p>This is the kind of world we face in the 21st century.</p>
<p>I consider that we are in a crisis in many evangelical churches because we  are failing to equip Christians to answer these questions for themselves and to  provide answers for questioners. I had a recent example where I was talking to a  man who was an abuser of his wife. I asked him: &#8220;Where did you learn to abuse  your spouse?&#8221; He responded: &#8220;I read it in the Book, the one with a cross on it.  That&#8217;s a violent book!&#8221;</p>
<p>This leads to the core of this article:</p>
<h3><a name="_Toc201639256">B. Apologetics is a critical church ministry</a>: We  need to be answering Aussies questions about God &amp; the world</h3>
<p>I am convinced that as a general rule in Australia, many churches are not  equipping their people adequately for the critical ministry of apologetics.  Ephesians 4:11-15 provides direction for us. Note these fundamentals in this  passage:</p>
<ul>
<li> These are the ministry gifts of Christ – apostle, prophet, evangelist,  pastor and teacher. They are for what purpose?</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>They are given &#8220;to equip the saints for the work of ministry&#8221; (v. 12).<a name="_ednref16" href="#_edn16">[16]</a> This includes many ministries but the  ministry of apologetics is one of those. This will lead to this outcome:</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> According to v. 14, it means that we will no longer be children in the  faith and tossed about by false doctrine and human cunning, craftiness and  deceitful schemes.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> Where does this quipping ministry begin? The responsibility lies at the  feet of church leaders who are committed to the scriptural ministry of equipping  believers for their work of ministry.</li>
</ul>
<h4><a name="_Toc201639257">1. What is apologetics?</a></h4>
<p>Woody Allen, the USA actor, director, musician and comedian, asked: &#8220;Can we  actually &#8216;know&#8217; the universe? My God, it&#8217;s hard enough to find your way around  in Chinatown. The point, however, is: Is there anything out there? And why?&#8221;<a name="_ednref17" href="#_edn17">[17]</a> Woody retorted: &#8220;Not only is there no  God, but try getting a plumber on weekends.&#8221;<a name="_ednref18" href="#_edn18">[18]</a></p>
<p>People are asking these kinds of questions:</p>
<ul>
<li> Is there meaning in life? How can modern human beings find that meaning? I  have counselled a number of people on the verge of suicide over the years who  are asking that exact question.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> Can we ever discover truth in a postmodern world?</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> How can you know that Christianity is truth, over against, say, Buddhism,  Islam, Hinduism, paganism or spiritism?</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> How can you know if the Bible is a trustworthy document when compared with  any document from history?</li>
</ul>
<p>Those are the types of questions that the ministry of apologetics seeks to  answer.</p>
<p>Apologist Winfried Corduan wrote that &#8220;the defense of the truth of  Christianity is called <em>apologetics</em>. . . . The Greek word <em>apologia</em> (<em>defense</em>) is the word that would be used to defend one&#8217;s case in a court  of law. Thus the Christian should be able to state <em>what</em> he or she  believes, and <em>why</em>. Apologetics helps the Christian mount a credible case  for the truth of Christianity.&#8221;<a name="_ednref19" href="#_edn19">[19]</a></p>
<p>The English word, &#8220;apology,&#8221; has a different meaning to the Greek noun. The  Greek noun, <em>apologia</em> (defense) and the verbal form, <em>apologoumai</em> (I  make a defense) appear approximately 20 times in the Greek New Testament.<a name="_ednref20" href="#_edn20">[20]</a></p>
<h4><a name="_Toc201639258">2. I need to apologise for apologetics</a><a name="_ednref21" href="#_edn21">[21]</a></h4>
<p>Since I have been promoting the need for more apologetic teaching within the  church for a number of years, there has been some resistance among Christians.  Objections include these: You can’t argue anybody into the kingdom. Apologetics  only caters to pride. Conversion is not about the intellect; it is all about the  heart. You are only catering to the intellectuals and this is not for everyday  people.</p>
<p>Apologetics is a ministry that defends itself. All who argue against the  ministry of apologetics end up using their own kind of apologetic argument.</p>
<p>Ravi Zacharias, one of today&#8217;s leading apologists, said it well, &#8220;The one who  says apologetics is a matter of pride ends up proudly defending one’s own  impoverishment. The one who says conversion is a matter of the heart and not the  intellect ends up presenting intellectual arguments to convince others of this  position. So goes the process of self-contradiction.&#8221;<a name="_ednref22" href="#_edn22">[22]</a></p>
<p>What are our reasons for defending the faith?</p>
<h3><strong>C. Reasons for Defending the Faith </strong><a name="_ednref23" href="#_edn23"><strong>[23]</strong></a></h3>
<p><a name="_Toc201639260">I am grateful for the excellent work of apologist and  theologian, Dr. Norman Geisler.He gives these reasons for defending the  faith</a> and I use his outline:</p>
<h4><a name="_Toc201639261">1. God Commands the Use of Reason</a></h4>
<p>The most important reason for doing apologetics is that God told us to do it.  Over and over the New Testament exhorts us to defend the Faith. Let&#8217;s look  briefly at some primary verses in 1 Peter 3:15-16a:</p>
<p>&#8220;But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an  answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.  But do this with gentleness and respect.&#8221;</p>
<p>Note the five straight-forward emphases from these two verses:</p>
<p><strong>a. </strong><strong>You are already acknowledging Christ as the Lord in your hearts. </strong></p>
<p>Peter links doing apologetics with Christ&#8217;s Lordship in our hearts. Since he  is Lord, then we should be obedient to Him as &#8220;we demolish arguments and every  pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive  every thought to make it obedient to Christ&#8221; (2 Cor. 10:4-5). We should be  confronting issues in our own minds and entering into private and public  discourse with others who have doubts that are preventing them from knowing God.  This is included in the ministry of apologetics.</p>
<p><strong>b. &#8220;Always be prepared&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>It couldn&#8217;t be clearer. All believers must be ready and prepared. This is  emphasised with the words, &#8220;<em>Everyone</em> who asks.&#8221; All believers must be  prepared for that person who asks about your faith. Too often we miss the subtle  ways that people ask or hint. I recall one who asked me, &#8220;Why are so many  teenagers depressed?&#8221; What an opportunity to discuss meaning in life and the  Gospel connection!</p>
<p>You may not come across those who ask the tough questions about our faith all  that often, but you should be prepared for when they come. Being ready is not  just a matter of having the right information available. It is also an attitude  of readiness and eagerness to share with others the truth of what we believe.</p>
<p>What will you say if somebody asks you:</p>
<ul>
<li> &#8220;Who made God?&#8221; or</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> You have the meanest most obnoxious God! Look what he did in killing all  those people in the Chinese earthquake and causing such destruction. Take a read  of the Book of Judges in the OT. He must be a monster! How are you prepared  right now to answer these questions?</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> Scientific, modern human beings can never believe in miracles. That&#8217;s  out-of-date stuff. That nonsense is for old-timers.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> I speak with people who say that Christianity is a myth. Are you prepared  to respond?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>c. We must be prepared for what? &#8220;To give <span style="text-decoration: underline;">an answer</span>.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>Notice these various Bible translations:</p>
<p>KJV: &#8220;and be ready always to give an answer.&#8221;</p>
<p>NIV: &#8220;always be prepared to give an answer.&#8221;</p>
<p>NKJV: &#8220;always be ready to give a defense.&#8221;</p>
<p>NASB: &#8220;always being ready to make a defense.&#8221;</p>
<p>ESV: &#8220;always being prepared to make a defense.&#8221;</p>
<p>NRSV: &#8220;always be ready to make your defence.&#8221;</p>
<p>Be ready &#8220;to give an <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">answer</span></strong>&#8221; somewhat disguises the meaning of  <em>apologia</em>, which is to give a defense as in a court. The NKJV, NASB, ESV  and NRSV provide the more precise translations.</p>
<p>First Peter 3:15 tells us what we are to provide:</p>
<p><strong>d. A defense for the hope you have in Christ;</strong></p>
<p>It is here that we sometimes become stuck. We make assertions like: &#8220;I&#8217;m a  born again Christian&#8221; or &#8220;my hope for the present and the future is in Christ  for eternal life,&#8221; but we are not prepared for the resistance:</p>
<ul>
<li> Who would believe that junk?</li>
<li>The Bible is just like Greek mythology.</li>
<li>As with John D. Crossan, parts of Luke&#8217;s Gospel are &#8220;Lukan propaganda.&#8221;</li>
<li>You believe in God; you believe in fantasy;</li>
<li>You can&#8217;t believe in God and Christ and still believe in science.</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>e. </strong><strong>Do it &#8220;with gentleness and respect.&#8221; </strong></p>
<p>These kinds of questions can naturally cause us to become defensive,  sarcastic and antagonistic in our responses.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no place for self-assured cockiness in apologetics. Putting people  down is contrary to the way of Jesus. I&#8217;m reminded of Col. 4:5-6 and how we  ought to do evangelism, apologetics and many other ministries: &#8220;Conduct  yourselves wisely toward outsiders, making the best use of your time. Let your  speech always be gracious, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how you  ought to answer each person&#8221; (ESV).</p>
<p>This word, &#8220;answer&#8221;, is used only once by Paul in his epistles but 7 times in  the NT<a name="_ednref24" href="#_edn24">[24]</a>and is not <em>apologia</em>, but  <em>apokrinomai</em>, which means an answer or reply to something or someone when  they ask. <a name="_ednref25" href="#_edn25">[25]</a></p>
<p>Remember God&#8217;s emphasis in Isaiah 1:18: &#8220;&#8216;Come now, let us reason together,&#8217;says the LORD. &#8220;Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as  snow;     though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool.&#8221;</p>
<p>So is the use of reason opposed to the Bible? Hardly!</p>
<p>Paul wrote in Philippians 1:7, speaking of his mission as one of &#8220;defense and  confirmation of the gospel&#8221; (ESV). There&#8217;s that word again, &#8220;defense&#8221;  (<em>apologia</em>). He added in Phil. 1:16, &#8220;I am put here for the defense of the  gospel&#8221; (ESV). We are put wherever God has placed us to defend the Gospel as  well. We are here to be apologists for the Gospel and that means providing a  defense of the faith to those who ask us for reasons to believe in Christ.</p>
<p>You are familiar with Jude 3: &#8220;Dear friends, although I was very eager to  write to you about the salvation we share, I felt I had to write and urge you to  contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to the saints.&#8221;</p>
<p>The people Jude was writing to had been assaulted by false teachers and he  needed to encourage them to contend (literally, agonise for) the faith as it had  been revealed through Christ. Jude makes a significant statement about our  attitude as we do this in verse 22 when he says, &#8220;Be merciful to those who  doubt.&#8221; Apologetics, then, is a form of mercy.</p>
<p>Titus 1:9 makes knowledge of Christian evidences a requirement for church  leadership. An elder in the church &#8220;must hold firmly to the trustworthy message  as it has been taught, so that he can encourage others by sound doctrine and  refute those who oppose it.&#8221;</p>
<p>In 2 Tim. 2:24-25 Paul declares that &#8220;the Lord&#8217;s servant must not quarrel;  instead, he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. Those who  oppose him he must gently instruct, in the hope that God will grant them  repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyone attempting to answer the questions of unbelievers will sometimes feel  wronged and be tempted to lose patience. Avoid quarreling. Our ultimate goal is  that they might come to knowledge of the truth that Jesus has died for their  sins.</p>
<p>Indeed, the command to use reason is part of the greatest command. For Jesus  said, &#8220;`Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and  with all your mind.&#8217; This is the first and greatest commandment&#8221; (Matt.  22:37-38).</p>
<p>Why engage in the ministry of apologetics? Firstly, God commands the use of  reason.</p>
<h4><a name="_Toc201639262">2. Reason Demands It</a></h4>
<p>Take a look at yourself. Do you just buy any old or new car? You have your  reasons for purchasing this car instead of that one.</p>
<p>Why have you chosen to worship the Lord of the universe as revealed in the  Holy Bible, rather than the God of the Quran, the gods of the Hindus, or  choosing not to worship at all? Why?</p>
<p>When God created you in his image, he created you with human reason (Gen.  1:27, cf. Col. 3:10). One of the things that distinguishes us from &#8220;brute  beasts&#8221; or &#8220;unreasonable animals&#8221; (Jude 10, ESV) is our ability to reason and  have a relationship with God.</p>
<p>God calls, &#8220;Come now, let us reason together&#8221; (Isa. 1:18). First John 4:6  affirms that &#8220;we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error.&#8221; According to  Heb. 5:14, mature believers &#8220;have their powers of discernment trained by  constant practice to distinguish good from evil&#8221; (ESV).</p>
<p>Are we getting the message? A fundamental principle of human reason is that  we should have sufficient grounds for what we believe. An unjustified belief is  just that—unjustified.</p>
<p>Socrates said, &#8220;The unexamined life is not worth living.&#8221;<a name="_ednref26" href="#_edn26">[26]</a> And an unexamined belief is not worth believing.  Therefore, God&#8217;s requirement is for all of us &#8220;to give a reason for our hope.&#8221; I  understand that this is part of the great command to love God with all of our  minds, as well as our hearts and souls (Matt. 22:36-37).</p>
<p>The third reason for engaging in the ministry of apologetics is:</p>
<h4><a name="_Toc201639263">3. The World Needs It</a></h4>
<p>Many secular people I speak with are not prepared to accept our Jesus and the  Bible on our say-so. They want to know why you believe that &#8220;nonsense.&#8221; God made  us as rational, reasonable human beings and he wants us to look and examine  before we leap.</p>
<p>Please understand that faith is always needed but God wants us to make a step  of faith in the direction of evidence concerning Himself. You need to know that  this God is the one who matches reality and is not any kind of God. You wouldn&#8217;t  get into your car and drive it if there was smoke coming from under the bonnet.  You have reasons not to drive that vehicle. Evidence and reason are important to  establish whether you should drive that car. Evidence and reason are even more  important when making the ultimate decision of your life: Will I believe in God?  Which god?</p>
<p>There is a fourth reason for engaging in the ministry of apologetics.</p>
<h4><a name="_Toc201639264">4. Results Confirm It</a></h4>
<p>One of the reasons against apologetics that people sometimes give me is that  Paul was a failure on Mars Hill (Acts 17). Norman Geisler has correctly  diagnosed this situation:</p>
<p>Opponents argue that Paul was unsuccessful in his attempt to reach the  thinkers on Mars Hill (in Acts 17), discarding the method and later telling the  Corinthians that he wanted to &#8220;know Jesus and Him only&#8221; (1 Cor. 2:2). However,  this interpretation is based on a serious misunderstanding of the text.</p>
<p>For one thing, Paul did have results on Mars Hill. For some people were  saved, including a philosopher. The text says clearly &#8220;A few men became  followers of Paul and believed. Among them was Dionysius, a member of the  Areopagus, also a woman named Damaris, and a number of others&#8221; (Acts 17:34).</p>
<p>For another thing, nowhere in either Acts or 1 Corinthians does Paul indicate  any repentance or even regret over what he did on Mars Hill. This is reading  into the text what simply is not there.<a name="_ednref27" href="#_edn27">[27]</a></p>
<p>There are people throughout history and in our contemporary world who were  led to faith in Christ through a defense of the faith?  I&#8217;m reminded of a few examples.  Some go way back in the history of the church.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">St. Augustine</span></strong><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> of Hippo</span><a name="_ednref28" href="#_edn28"><strong>[28]</strong></a></strong></p>
<p>This early church father lived from A.D. 354-430. He &#8220;is considered one of  the great fathers of the Christian church, and has been of momentous importance  in the development of Christian thought.&#8221;<a name="_ednref29" href="#_edn29">[29]</a> There were a number of apologetic turning points in his  life before he became a Christian.</p>
<p>He was into Manichaean dualism and he was helped out of that cult by a young  Christian, Helpidius, who would debate the Manicheans.<a name="_ednref30" href="#_edn30">[30]</a> A defence of the faith helped Augustine out of total  skepticism and to see the self-defeating nature of Manichaean religion.</p>
<p>&#8220;Dualism claims that there are two essentially different principles of  reality. Sometimes these two are represented by pairs of opposites as  light/darkness, knowledge/ignorance, spirit/matter (also mind/body), Good/Evil,  etc.&#8221;<a name="_ednref31" href="#_edn31">[31]</a> But the Manicheans were a major  Gnostic religion, started by Mani in 3rd century Persia. They <a name="_ednref32" href="#_edn32">[32]</a>believed in &#8220;radical dualism&#8221;, that these &#8220;two principles  are absolutely contrary (neither bipolar nor binary!), i.e. they oppose each  other in their very essences and have nothing in common, and they are eternal,  non-created and undestroyable.&#8221;<a name="_ednref33" href="#_edn33">[33]</a></p>
<p>Augustine tells that if it were not for his studying Plotinus, &#8220;he would not  even been able to conceive of a spiritual being, let alone believe in one.&#8221;<a name="_ednref34" href="#_edn34">[34]</a> Read of it is Augustine&#8217;s autobiography,  <em>Confessions</em>.<a name="_ednref35" href="#_edn35">[35]</a></p>
<p>From the ancient past to the present!</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Ravi</span></strong><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> Zacharias</span></strong></p>
<p>This contemporary Christian apologist, born in India, now travels the world  defending the Christian faith. But it was not always that way. In his teen years  he tells of how he would skip school for days on end and turn up for exams and  barely scrape through.<a name="_ednref36" href="#_edn36">[36]</a> He wrote: &#8220;My  relationship with my father left a lot to be desired and my aimless life was a  cause of immense frustration to him.&#8221;<a name="_ednref37" href="#_edn37">[37]</a></p>
<p>Ravi&#8217;s father found out that he had not been at school one day and Dad&#8217;s  &#8220;torrent of anger&#8221; was unleashed on him and the thrashing he received left him  &#8220;trembling and sobbing.&#8221; Had his mother not intervened, he &#8220;could have been  seriously hurt.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ravi explains that &#8220;no one who knew me would have ever suspected the depth of  emptiness within me. I was one of those teenagers who struggled with much on the  inside but did not know where to turn for answers. . . Putting it plainly, life  to me just did not make sense.&#8221;<a name="_ednref38" href="#_edn38">[38]</a></p>
<p>That night, in his teens, after a trouncing from his father, Ravi says: &#8220;The  intense soul search that began that night was ultimately to lead me to the  person of Jesus Christ. How that happened in a culture that is rigorously  pantheistic and (at least on paper) religiously all-encompassing is a miracle in  itself.&#8221;<a name="_ednref39" href="#_edn39">[39]</a></p>
<p>You can read of Ravi&#8217;s struggle with skepticism, the meaning of life and how  Christ saved this man, in his book, <em>Jesus among Other Gods</em>.<a name="_ednref40" href="#_edn40">[40]</a> The struggle for the meaning of life in a  pantheistic culture, led him to &#8220;firmly believe Jesus Christ to be who He  claimed to be—the Son of the living God, the One who came to seek and to save a  lost humanity.&#8221;<a name="_ednref41" href="#_edn41">[41]</a></p>
<p>Ravi Zacharias migrated to Canada when he was 20 years old. Today he, as a  Christian apologist,</p>
<p>has spoken in over fifty countries, including the Middle East, Vietnam and  Cambodia (during the military conflict) and in numerous universities worldwide,  notably Harvard, Princeton and Oxford Universities. He has addressed writers of  the peace accord in South Africa, the President&#8217;s . . . cabinet and parliament  in Peru, and military officers at the Lenin Military Academy and the Center for  Geopolitical Strategy in Moscow.<a name="_ednref42" href="#_edn42">[42]</a></p>
<p>But this journey began as a troubled teen in India who was on the verge of  committing suicide.</p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Frank Morrison</span></strong></p>
<p>This &#8220;skeptic set out to disprove Christianity by showing the resurrection  never occurred. The quest ended with his conversion and a book titled <em>Who  Moved the Stone?</em> in which the first chapter was titled &#8216;The Book That  Refused to be Written&#8217;&#8221;<a name="_ednref43" href="#_edn43">[43]</a></p>
<p>Norman Geisler tells this story of the impact of Frank Morrison&#8217;s book:</p>
<p>Let me tell you just one story about an atheist I had the privilege of  introducing to Jesus Christ. After reasoning him from atheism to open-minded  agnosticism, he agreed to read Frank Morrison&#8217;s book. The evidence for Christ&#8217;s  resurrection convinced him and we had the privilege of leading him to Christ. He  has subsequently raised his family for Christ and is a leader in a church south  of St. Louis.<a name="_ednref44" href="#_edn44">[44]</a></p>
<p><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Simon Greenleaf</span></strong></p>
<p>At the beginning of the 20th century, Simon Greenleaf was the Professor of Law at  Harvard University, who wrote a significant book on legal evidence. He was  challenged by students to apply the rules of legal evidence to the New Testament  to see if its testimony would stand up in court. The result was a book titled  <em>The Testimony of the Evangelists</em> in which he reported his own  conversion to Christ.<a name="_ednref45" href="#_edn45">[45]</a></p>
<p>Ravi Zacharias, Norman Geisler, William Lane Craig and other apologists  report of those who come to Christ as a result of a defence of the faith. Norman  Geisler gives another example:</p>
<p>Following a debate on the rationality of belief in Christianity with the head  of the philosophy department at the University of Miami, the Christian student  leadership held a follow-up meeting. The atheist professor attended and  expressed doubts about his view expressed at the debate. It was reported that  some 14 people who had attended the debate made decisions for Christ.<a name="_ednref46" href="#_edn46">[46]</a></p>
<p>These are some of the reasons for the need for a ministry of apologetics in  the 21st century. This ministry needs to be equipped and promoted by the local  church.</p>
<h4>D. Conclusion</h4>
<p>I have a very personal application that fired me up in the ministry of  apologetics. I was sitting in a doctoral class in a certain USA university. In  class, I questioned one of the examples of evolution in a text book. I did not  mention a word about Christ or creation, but the professor unleashed his  bitterness towards my comments: &#8220;Your views are blankety blank&#8221; and he swore at  me. He later apologised to me privately, but not in front of the class where he  assailed me.</p>
<p>I felt spiritually naked that day. I did not know how to respond to him. I  had 2 diplomas from Bible colleges, a BA in biblical literature and NT Greek,  and a master&#8217;s degree in pastoral psychology &amp; counselling, but I did not  have one course in apologetics to prepare me for that day.</p>
<p>Since 1984, I have made it my business to prepare myself and others in the  defense of the glorious Christian faith. I needed to put I Peter 3:15 into  practice:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an  answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.  But do this with gentleness and respect.&#8221;</p>
<h4><a name="_Toc201639265">Recommended reading</a></h4>
<ol>
<li>The best introduction to apologetics for the laity that I have read, is by  Stephen Gaukroger 2003, <em>It Makes Sense</em>, Scripture Union, London. The  latest edition comes with a DVD and study guide. I recommend it highly for study  as a group.</li>
<li>Ravi Zacharias &amp; Norman Geisler (gen. eds.) 2003, <em>Who Made God? And  Answers to Over 100 Other Tough Questions of Faith</em>, Zondervan, Grand Rapids,  Michigan. There are questions for reflection and discussion at the end of each  chapter.</li>
<li>Ravi Zacharias &amp; Norman Geisler (gen. eds.) 2003, <em>Is Your Church  Ready? Motivating Leaders to Live an Apologetic Life</em>, Zondervan, Grand  Rapids, Michigan. At the conclusion of each chapter, this book also has  &#8220;questions for reflection and discussion.&#8221;</li>
<li>Norman Geisler &amp; Ron Brooks 1990, <em>When Skeptics Ask: A Handbook on  Christian Evidences</em>, Victor Books, Wheaton, Illinois.</li>
<li>Winfried Corduan 1993, <em>Reasonable Faith: Basic Christian Apologetics</em>,  Broadman &amp; Holman Publishers, Nashville, Tennessee.</li>
<li>Lee Strobel has some good material in his books, <em>The Case for Christ</em> (1998), <em>The Case for the Real Jesus</em> (2007), <em>The Case for a Creator </em>(2005), <em>The Case for Faith</em> (2000), Zondervan Publishing House, Grand  Rapids, Michigan.</li>
<li>If you want something more intellectually challenging, try William Lane  Craig 1994, <em>Reasonable Faith</em>, Crossway Books, Wheaton, Illinois, or  Norman Geisler 1988, <em>Christian Apologetics</em>, Baker Academic, Grand Rapids,  Michigan.</li>
</ol>
<hr size="1" /><a name="_edn1" href="#_ednref1">[1]</a> SBS Television, &#8220;Jesus to Christ, 3  January 1999, 8.30pm.</p>
<p><a name="_edn2" href="#_ednref2">[2]</a> Crossan, J. D. 1994a, <em>Jesus: A  Revolutionary Biography</em>, HarperSanFrancisco, San Francisco.</p>
<p><a name="_edn3" href="#_ednref3">[3]</a> Ibid., p. 26.</p>
<p><a name="_edn4" href="#_ednref4">[4]</a> Ibid., emphasis added.</p>
<p><a name="_edn5" href="#_ednref5">[5]</a>e.g. Richard N. Ostling, &#8220;Jesus Christ,  Plain and Simple,&#8221; <em>Time</em>, 10 January 1994, 38, in Dr. Gregory A. Boyd,  <em>Jesus Under Siege</em>. Wheaton, Illinois: Victor Books, 1985, 137.</p>
<p><a name="_edn6" href="#_ednref6">[6]</a> <em>The Canberra Times</em>, August 4,  1991, Robert Macklin.</p>
<p><a name="_edn7" href="#_ednref7">[7]</a> Rev. Spencer Gear, &#8220;Distorting the  Gospel Truth,&#8221; <em>The Canberra Times</em>, August 11, 1991, p. 10.</p>
<p><a name="_edn8" href="#_ednref8">[8]</a> Gregory Koukl 1995, &#8220;The Jesus Seminar  Under Fire,&#8221; <em>Stand to Reason</em>, available from: <a href="http://www.str.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&amp;id=5380">http://www.str.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&amp;id=5380</a> [7 August 2008].</p>
<p><a name="_edn9" href="#_ednref9">[9]</a> The home of the Jesus Seminar is the  Westar Institute, available from: <a href="http://www.westarinstitute.org/">http://www.westarinstitute.org/</a> [7  August 2008].</p>
<p><a name="_edn10" href="#_ednref10"></a>[10]All of these newspaper headlines are  from Luke Timothy Johnson, <em>The Real Jesus: The Misguided Quest for the  Historical Jesus and the Truth of the Traditional Gospels</em>. San Francisco:  HarperSanFrancisco, 1996, p. 20.</p>
<p><a name="_edn11" href="#_ednref11"></a>[11]<em>San Francisco Chronicle</em>, 9  March 1987.</p>
<p><a name="_edn12" href="#_ednref12"></a>[12]<em>San Francisco Chronicle</em>, 18  October, 1987.</p>
<p><a name="_edn13" href="#_ednref13"></a>[13]<em>Atlanta</em><em> Journal-Constitution</em>, 15 October 1988.</p>
<p><a name="_edn14" href="#_ednref14"></a>[14]<em>Atlanta</em><em> Constitution</em>,  5 March 1989.</p>
<p><a name="_edn15" href="#_ednref15"></a>[15]<em>Los Angeles</em><em> Times</em>, 5  March 1989.</p>
<p><a name="_edn16" href="#_ednref16">[16]</a> Unless otherwise stated, all  Scripture references are from <em>The Holy Bible: English Standard Version</em> 2001, Crossway Bibles, a division of Good News Publishers, Wheaton, Illinois.</p>
<p><a name="_edn17" href="#_ednref17">[17]</a> Woody Allen 1978, &#8220;My Philosophy,&#8221;  available from: <a href="http://profron.net/fun/WoodysPhilosophy.html">http://profron.net/fun/WoodysPhilosophy.html</a> [14 June 2008].</p>
<p><a name="_edn18" href="#_ednref18">[18]</a> Ibid.</p>
<p><a name="_edn19" href="#_ednref19">[19]</a> Winfried Corduan 1993,  <em>Reasonable Faith: Basic Christian Apologetics</em>, Broadman &amp; Holman  Publishers, Nashville, Tennessee, p. vii.</p>
<p><a name="_edn20" href="#_ednref20">[20]</a> See Luke 12:11; 21:14; Acts 19:33;  22:1; 24:10; 25:8, 16; 26:1, 2, 24; Rom. 2:15; 1 Cor. 9:3; 2 Cor. 7:11; 12:10;  Phil. 1:7, 16; 2 Tim. 4:16; 1 Pet. 3:15.</p>
<p><a name="_edn21" href="#_ednref21">[21]</a> Suggested Ravi Zacharias in the  introduction to <em>Beyond Opinion: Living the Faith We Defend</em>, available  from Ravi Zacharias International Ministries at: <a href="http://www.rzim.org/GlobalElements/GFV/tabid/449/ArticleID/6648/CBModuleId/1303/Default.aspx">http://www.rzim.org/GlobalElements/GFV/tabid/449/ArticleID/6648/CBModuleId/1303/Default.aspx</a> (RZIM) [19 June 2008].</p>
<p><a name="_edn22" href="#_ednref22">[22]</a> Ibid.</p>
<p><a name="_edn23" href="#_ednref23">[23]</a>With help from Dr. Norman Geisler&#8217;s  homepage, &#8220;The Need for Apologetics,&#8221; at: <a href="http://www.normgeisler.com/">http://www.normgeisler.com/</a> [25 April  2008]. Also in Norman L. Geisler 1999, <em>Baker Encyclopedia of Christian  Apologetics</em>, Baker Books, Grand Rapids, Michigan, p. 37ff.</p>
<p><a name="_edn24" href="#_ednref24">[24]</a> William F. Arndt &amp; F. Wilbur  Gingrich 1957, <em>A Greek-English Lexicon of the New Testament and other Early  Christian Literature</em>, The University of Chicago Press, Chicago, p. 92.</p>
<p><a name="_edn25" href="#_ednref25">[25]</a> Ibid.</p>
<p><a name="_edn26" href="#_ednref26">[26]</a> <em>Apology 38a</em>, available from:  <a href="http://www.philosophypages.com/hy/2d.htm">http://www.philosophypages.com/hy/2d.htm</a> [7 August 2008].</p>
<p><a name="_edn27" href="#_ednref27">[27]</a> Available from Dr. Norman Geisler&#8217;s  homepage at: <a href="http://www.normgeisler.com/">http://www.normgeisler.com/</a> [25 April  2008].</p>
<p><a name="_edn28" href="#_ednref28">[28]</a> Ibid.</p>
<p><a name="_edn29" href="#_ednref29">[29]</a> Conservapedia, &#8220;St. Augustine,&#8221;  available from: <a href="http://www.conservapedia.com/St._Augustine">http://www.conservapedia.com/St._Augustine</a> [26 June 2008].</p>
<p><a name="_edn30" href="#_ednref30">[30]</a> Read about it in <em>The  Confessions</em>, cited in Geisler, ibid.</p>
<p><a name="_edn31" href="#_ednref31">[31]</a> Manichaeism, available from: <a href="http://www.geocities.com/phoenixsparx/index.html">http://www.geocities.com/phoenixsparx/index.html</a> [26 June 2008].</p>
<p><a name="_edn32" href="#_ednref32">[32]</a> Mani lived, A. D. 210–276. See  Wikipedia at: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaeanism">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manichaeanism</a> [26 June 2008].</p>
<p><a name="_edn33" href="#_ednref33">[33]</a> Ibid.</p>
<p><a name="_edn34" href="#_ednref34">[34]</a> <em>The Confessions</em>, in Geisler,  ibid.</p>
<p><a name="_edn35" href="#_ednref35">[35]</a> Saint Augustine 1961,  <em>Confessions</em>, Penguin Books Ltd., Harmondsworth, Middlesex.</p>
<p><a name="_edn36" href="#_ednref36">[36]</a> Ravi Zacharias 2000, <em>Jesus Among  Other Gods: The Absolute Claims of the Christian Message</em>, Word Publishing,  Nashville, p. 1ff.</p>
<p><a name="_edn37" href="#_ednref37">[37]</a> Ibid., p. 1.</p>
<p><a name="_edn38" href="#_ednref38">[38]</a> Ibid., p. 2.</p>
<p><a name="_edn39" href="#_ednref39">[39]</a> Ibid., p. 3.</p>
<p><a name="_edn40" href="#_ednref40">[40]</a> Ibid.</p>
<p><a name="_edn41" href="#_ednref41">[41]</a> Ibid., p. 3.</p>
<p><a name="_edn42" href="#_ednref42">[42]</a> Available from: <a href="http://www.e316.com/authors/profile-Zacharias,_Ravi.asp">http://www.e316.com/authors/profile-Zacharias,_Ravi.asp</a> [26 June 2008].</p>
<p><a name="_edn43" href="#_ednref43">[43]</a> Geisler, ibid.</p>
<p><a name="_edn44" href="#_ednref44">[44]</a> Ibid.</p>
<p><a name="_edn45" href="#_ednref45">[45]</a> Ibid.</p>
<p><a name="_edn46" href="#_ednref46">[46]</a> Ibid.</p>
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This is the first part of a 4-part series.  See also:
Can  you trust the Bible? Part 2
Can  you trust the Bible? Part 3
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<p style="text-align: left;">This is the first part of a 4-part series.  See also:</p>
<p><span><a href="../2009/02/23/can-you-trust-the-bible-part-2/">Can  you trust the Bible? Part 2</a></span></p>
<p><span><a href="../2009/02/23/can-you-trust-the-bible-part-3/">Can  you trust the Bible? Part 3</a></span></p>
<p><span><a href="../2009/04/27/can-you-trust-your-bible-part-4/">Can  you trust the Bible? Part 4</a></span></p>
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<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">Why is it necessary for us in the 21</span><sup><span lang="en-AU">st</span></sup><span lang="en-AU"> century to have to address a topic such as this, &#8220;Can You Trust Your Bible?&#8221;  We&#8217;ve had this NT for close to 2,000 years and the first books of the OT (Pentateuch: Gen.-Deut. &amp; Job) for about 3,500 years.</span><a name="_ftnref1" href="#_ftn1"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[1]</span></span></span></a><span lang="en-AU"> [Ezra, Nehemiah, Esther, Malachi, 1 &amp; 2 Chronicles, concluded the OT canon, 400-500BC].  We&#8217;ll consider some reasons in a moment.</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2cm; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">This series will not deal with:</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2cm; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">(1)  Which English translation is the best?  That would be an interesting topic.  We&#8217;ll be dealing with the trustworthiness of the OT and NT in the original manuscripts.</span></p>
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<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2cm; text-indent: -1.27cm; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU"> (2) </span><span lang="en-AU"> </span><span lang="en-AU">We will not be discussing, except in passing, how the books came to be selected for the OT and the NT.  That&#8217;s the canonicity of the Bible and it will not be our focus.</span></p>
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<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU"><span lang="en-AU"> (3)  We also will be learning 	some general approaches to help with sharing the Gospel     with Aussies 	&#8211; including a defence of the trustworthiness of the Bible.</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" lang="en-AU"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>A.  What are some of the reasons why we need to defend the Bible today?</strong></span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">For me, these are prominent reasons, but they are not in order of priority:</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2cm; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">1.  First, when you turn on the TV or radio, or read the newspaper at Easter and </span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">Christmas times particularly (but also at other times), you will be fed loads of doubt about the Bible and its truthfulness.  In fact, much of this doubt is being driven by some from within the church who do not believe what the Bible says &#8212; liberal church men and women.  We&#8217;ll look at examples as we go along.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2cm; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">2 </span><span lang="en-AU"> </span><span lang="en-AU">Second, this mass media message is impacting on regular people in the church and we MUST provide answers.  Shortly, I&#8217;ll give an example of a person who came to me very distraught after one of those TV programs. </span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">We live in a mass media culture &#8212; and that includes the worldwide web.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">Other worldviews can drown us and we MUST provide reasons for the Christian faith, especially for our young people.</p>
<p class="msonormal" lang="en-AU"><span style="font-size: small;">It was about 500 years ago that the leader of the Protestant reformation, MARTIN LUTHER, said this:</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 1.27cm; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">&#8220;If I profess with the loudest voice and clearest exposition every point of the Truth of God except precisely that little point which the world and the devil are at that point attacking, I am not confessing Christ, however boldly I may be professing Christ.  Where the battle rages, there the loyalty of the soldier is tested.  To be steady in all the battlefield besides, is mere flight and disgrace if the soldier flinches at that point.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref2" href="#_ftn2"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[2]</span></span></span></a></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">That&#8217;s as relevant as if Luther preached it today.  I&#8217;d rather be expounding the Scriptures for the people of God, but the Bible is under attack and we must provide answers for the people of God.  It would be a disgrace if I flinched at this point.</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-indent: 1.27cm; text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">3.  There&#8217;s a third, and very important reason, why we must address a subject such as, &#8220;Can You Trust Your Bible?&#8221;  The Bible requires that we provide a defence of the faith in EVERY age of history.  We desperately need it today, but we evangelicals have become lazy.  Apologetics is not a prominent theological discipline in most of our Bible training colleges.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2cm; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">I Peter 3:15</span></span><span lang="en-AU">: &#8220;But in your hearts set apart Christ as Lord.  Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have.  But do this with gentleness and respect&#8221; (NIV). </span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">That phrase in the NIV, &#8220;give an answer&#8221; is too weak.  It is better translated as in the ESV, &#8220;make a defense.&#8221;  Make an &#8220;apologia&#8221; for the Christian faith.  It&#8217;s too bad that our English word &#8220;apology,&#8221; derived from this word, gives the wrong idea for what this wonderful Greek word means for all believers.  &#8220;Give an answer&#8221;, means &#8220;give a defense&#8221; of the Christian faith &#8212; all of us need to be prepared to do that.</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">This is as Paul did on Mars Hill (the Areopagus), Athens, recorded in Acts 17:22ff.  It was there that he used the Greek&#8217;s &#8220;unknown god&#8221; as a starting point for defending the faith (v. 23).</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">According to Acts 17:17, before Paul got to the Areopagus, he &#8220;reasoned in the synagogue with the Jews and the God-fearing Greeks, as well as in the marketplace day by day with those who happened to be there.&#8221;</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">How we need Christians to be equipped for that today.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">You know, &#8220;Thou shalt not think,&#8221; is NOT one of the 10 commandments.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2cm; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">4.  There&#8217;s a fourth reason why a subject like this is needed today. I hear Christian parents saying to their teenagers about the Bible: &#8220;Accept it by faith.  God requires you to just believe it.  Faith is the answer to your doubt.  Quit asking questions about the Bible.  Just accept it.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">It is my prayer that after this 4-part series, you will never say that again.  Here&#8217;s why:</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2cm; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">a.</span><span lang="en-AU"> </span><span lang="en-AU">You are probably familiar with what the Bible says about its own inspiration, but let&#8217;s look at these verses again:</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">2 Timothy 3:16-17</span></span><span lang="en-AU">: &#8220;All Scripture is inspired by God and [is] profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for training in righteousness; that the man of God may be adequate, equipped for every good work&#8221;.  (NASB)  &#8221;All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work&#8221; NIV)</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Psalm 119:142, 151:</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 1.27cm; text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">Your righteousness is righteous forever, and your law is true.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 1.27cm; text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">But you are near, O Lord, and all your commandments are true.  (ESV)</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 1.27cm; text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">Your righteousness is an everlasting righteousness, and Your law is truth.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 1.27cm; text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">You are near, O Lord, and all Your commandments are truth.  (NASB)</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 1.27cm; text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">
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<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2cm; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">b.  But take a look at another &#8220;scripture&#8221; from another religion. </span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">Many of us are not familiar with these words.  They are words from the Muslim&#8217;s Koran (Quran):</p>
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</span></span></span><span style="color: #800080;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span lang="en-AU">Order 				Of Revelation 87, Verses: 286</span></span></span><a name="_ftnref3" href="#_ftn3"><span style="color: #800080;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: medium;"><span lang="en-AU">[3]</span></span></span></span></a></p>
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<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">[2:0] In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">[2:1] A.L.M.*</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU"><strong>[2:2] <span style="text-decoration: underline;">This scripture is infallible</span>; a beacon for the righteous; </strong></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><span lang="en-AU"><em>Three Categories of People<br />
(1) The Righteous</em></span></span>
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<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">[2:3] who believe in the unseen, observe the Contact Prayers (Salat)*, and from our provisions **to them, they give to charity.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">[2:4] And they believe in what was revealed to you, and in what was revealed before you*, and with regard to the Hereafter, they are absolutely certain.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">[2:5] These are guided by their Lord; these are the winners.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU"><span style="color: #0000ff;">__________________________________________________________________<br />
<em>*2:1 These initials remained a divinely guarded secret for 1400 years.  Now we recognize them as a major component of the Quran&#8217;s mathematical miracle (see Appendices 1, 2, 24, and 26).  The meaning of A.L.M. is pointed out in Verse 2: &#8220;This scripture is infallible.&#8221;  This is incontrovertibly proven by the fact that the frequencies of occurrence of these three initials in this sura are 4502, 3202, and 2195, respectively.  The sum of these numbers is 9899, or 19&#215;521.  Thus, these most frequent letters of the Arabic language are mathematically placed according to a superhuman pattern.  These same initials also prefix Suras 3, 29, 30, 31, and 32, and their frequencies of occurrence add up to multiples of 19 in each one of these suras. </em></span>
</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;">
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;">
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">I put it to you, the Bible says &#8220;all Scripture is inspired by God.&#8221;</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">The Quran says, &#8220;This Scripture is infallible.&#8221;</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">Which one are you to believe?  If you accept the Bible and reject the Quran, why do you do that?  Both books say that they are &#8220;inspired.&#8221;  If you accept <span style="text-decoration: underline;">both</span>, you are in for massive conflict because the Quran says that:</p>
<ul style="text-align: left;">
<li>
<p class="msonormal"><span lang="en-AU">For the Muslim, Allah is 	the only true God;</span></p>
</li>
</ul>
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<li>
<p class="msonormal"><span lang="en-AU">It is blasphemous to 	believe in the Trinity;</span></p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="msonormal"><span lang="en-AU">Jesus Christ was a 	prophet for His people, in His day, but he is not the Son of God or 	God himself (Sura 4:171);</span></p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="msonormal"><span lang="en-AU">The prophet Muhammed 	supercedes Jesus Christ;</span></p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="msonormal"><span lang="en-AU">Jesus Christ did not 	atone for anyone&#8217;s sins, although Jesus was sinless;</span></p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="msonormal"><span lang="en-AU">Jesus did not die on 	the cross;</span></p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="msonormal"><span lang="en-AU">Many Muslims believe 	that Jesus Christ was taken bodily into heaven without having died 	(Sura 4:157);</span></p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="msonormal"><span lang="en-AU">The Muslim God is 	unapproachable by sinful people;</span></p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="msonormal"><span lang="en-AU">Sin and salvation in 	Islam are associated with works and fate (kismet);</span></p>
</li>
<li>
<p class="msonormal"><span lang="en-AU">Some Shiite Muslims are 	restoring Holy War (the Jihad) as a condition of faith &#8212; it is 	their sacred duty to murder anyone who will not embrace the one true 	faith.  (Surely that is what we are seeing with the suicide 	bombings in the Middle East now).</span><a name="_ftnref4" href="#_ftn4"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[4]</span></span></span></a></p>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">The Bible says that it is the infallible, God-breathed Word of God.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">The Quran says that it is infallible.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">How are you going to validate the Bible as a trustworthy word from the Lord Almighty; or the Quran as the infallible Word from Allah?</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="border: medium none; padding: 0cm; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">It will not do to say, &#8220;Accept the Bible by faith.&#8221;  We need some verification to prove that the Bible is the trustworthy word from the Lord almighty.</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="border: medium none; padding: 0cm; text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">Take a read of one of the students on a seminary’s Bulletin Board [no longer available to the general public]:</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">Dear Jamie</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">I agree that they were fallible humans, but can an infallible God speak to us, give us a message to give to others, and still keep that message infallible. <span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>The whole question of infalliblility of scripture is one of faith.</strong></span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">I won&#8217;t speak for anyone but me. If the out come of eternity is based on the relationship I have with God, requires that God give me the message in a way I can understand, and trust. If you look at other historical writings, and how the OT and NT were written over thousands of years, by so many different writers, God&#8217;s hand must have been on it. Greater minds than mine have argued this question, and I have to stand with those who hold to infallibility.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">For me, when the church Canonize the scripture, it wasn&#8217;t so we would worship, but so would have a final authority. Something that we could all agree on. As I look on every church body that has pulled away for scripture as final authority, they have fallen away from belief, till the point that some do not believe in God at all (Bishop Pike). <span style="text-decoration: none;"><strong>The struggle to canonize scripture, was long and hard, yes man did it but I believe God&#8217;s hand there helping. Now can I prove anything I just said. No! But that&#8217;s the wonderful thing about faith, I don&#8217;t have to.</strong></span><span style="text-decoration: none;"> </span>If you don&#8217;t hold to scripture as the final authorty, than you have to look to the mind a logic, logic will lead you to humanism or to a God who wants to speak to us. Francis A. Schaeffer, &#8220;He is there and He is not silent&#8221;, is a very good book explaining this process.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">God Bless</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">Larry</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">
<p class="msonormal" lang="en-AU"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>B.  Here&#8217;s where I am going in these four messages with you.</strong></span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">I&#8217;m grateful for the time I studied under one of the world&#8217;s leading apologists, Dr John Warwick Montgomery.  I am deeply indebted to his approach to defending the faith and establishing the trustworthiness of the Bible, especially the Gospel records.  He taught me this outline (with some changes) and this is where we are going in these teaching sessions.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">A criticism that is often made against the Bible is that Christians argue in circles.  The charge goes like this: Christians claim that the Bible is the inspired Word of God, and to prove it, they quote a passage from the Bible that says so.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">This kind of argumentation is known as begging the question or circular reasoning.  Nothing is proved by it.  It is based on assuming something is true, but using that assumption as fact to prove another assumption.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">But there is no need to do this.  Instead of assuming the Bible to be the Word of God, we can begin by:</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-indent: 1.27cm; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">1.  Demonstrating that the Scriptures are reliable historical documents.</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 1.27cm; text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">2.  In these documents, Jesus claims to be God in human flesh, and he bases His claim on His forthcoming resurrection.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 1.27cm; text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">3<strong>. </strong>We examine the evidence for the resurrection in this historic document and find that the arguments overwhelmingly support the fact that Christ actually rose from the dead.  This demonstrates that He is the unique Son of God that He claimed to be.  If He is God, then He speaks with authority on all matters.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 1.27cm; text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">4.  Since Christ is God, then He speaks the truth concerning the absolute divine authority of the Old Testament (Matt. 5:17-18; 15:1-3) and the soon-to-be written New Testament.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">[Jesus "promised His disciples, who either wrote or had control over the writing of the New Testament books, that the Holy Spirit would bring all things back to their remembrance (John 14:26)."  So, "we can insist, with sound and accurate logic, that the Bible is God's word.  This is not circular reasoning.  It is establishing certain facts and basing conclusions on the sound logical outcome of these facts.  The case for Christianity can be established by ordinary means of historical investigation."</span><a name="_ftnref5" href="#_ftn5"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">15]</span></span></span></a><span lang="en-AU">]</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">5.  If we have time, I&#8217;ll put the Quran to the same tests that we apply to the Bible.</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" lang="en-AU"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>C. By way of explanation, I need to say that I will be using tests to establish the trustworthiness of Scripture from <span style="text-decoration: underline;">within</span> the Bible and from <span style="text-decoration: underline;">outside</span> the Bible.</strong></span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="line-height: 150%; text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">I have known Christians to get a bit upset with me when I say that I will be using tests from outside of the Bible to prove the accuracy and trustworthiness of the Bible.  It&#8217;s necessary to do it this way.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">Those who study the original languages of the Bible (Greek, Aramaic and Hebrew) have to do this all the time.  Nowhere in the Bible do you find the rules of grammar for understanding Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek.  I had to learn my Greek grammar to interpret the Bible, from outside of the Bible.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">For example, we know that the Bible says, &#8220;God so loved the world&#8221; and NOT &#8220;the world so loved God&#8221; because of Greek grammar that dictates the translation into English.  The Bible in the original language has to be interpreted by learning Greek grammar and syntax from OUTSIDE the Bible.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">We have to do the same kind of thing when we set out to prove the trustworthiness of a historical document.</p>
<p class="msonormal" lang="en-AU"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>D.  Let&#8217;s look at some books from history</strong></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-family: Symbol;"><span lang="en-AU"> </span></span><span lang="en-AU">Here&#8217;s a biography of John Macarthur (</span><span lang="en-AU"><em>John Macarthur</em></span><span lang="en-AU">, M. H. Ellis</span><a name="_ftnref6" href="#_ftn6"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[6]</span></span></span></a><span lang="en-AU">), not the American preacher, but a famous Australian (1767-1834).  MacArthur was the &#8220;squire&#8221; responsible for bringing &#8220;to Australia the first authenticated pure merinos [sheep] and persuaded the British Privy Council that wool would be the basis of future greatness of the colony of New South Wales.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref7" href="#_ftn7"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[7]</span></span></span></a></li>
</ul>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2cm; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">The author of the biography says, &#8220;though the author has worked as far as possible from original documents, he has applied his reference notes wherever it has been feasible to a source more accessible to the ordinary student.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref8" href="#_ftn8"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[8]</span></span></span></a><span lang="en-AU"> </span><span lang="en-AU"><strong>How do I know these original documents by John MacArthur are reliable and trustworthy?</strong></span></p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-family: Symbol;"><span lang="en-AU"> </span></span><span lang="en-AU">Here&#8217;s the book, </span><span lang="en-AU"><em>The Five Gospels</em></span><span lang="en-AU"> (Funk, Hoover, and the Jesus Seminar</span><a name="_ftnref9" href="#_ftn9"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[9]</span></span></span></a><span lang="en-AU">) and read p. 5: &#8220;Beware of finding a Jesus entirely congenial to you . . .  Eighty-two percent of the words ascribed to Jesus in the gospels were not actually spoken by him.&#8221; </span><span lang="en-AU"><strong>How do we decide if Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are 82% wrong with the words of Jesus OR the 4 Gospels provide an accurate picture of the life and death of Jesus Christ?</strong></span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span lang="en-AU">Here we have </span><span lang="en-AU"><em>The Complete Works of Flavius Josephus</em></span><a name="_ftnref10" href="#_ftn10"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[10] </span></span></span></a><span lang="en-AU"> He was a wealthy Jew who wrote this history in which he &#8220;tried to justify Judaism to the cultured Romans by his writings.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref11" href="#_ftn11"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[11]</span></span></span></a><span lang="en-AU"> He also mentioned James, &#8220;the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ. . .&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref12" href="#_ftn12"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[12]</span></span></span></a><span lang="en-AU"> </span><span lang="en-AU"><strong>Is Josephus writing reliable history?  If so, how do we know?</strong></span></li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li><span lang="en-AU">Then I pick up my Bible and read, &#8220;Sanctify them by the truth; your word is truth&#8221; (John 17:17).  Also, &#8220;All Scripture is God-breathed . . .&#8221; (2 Tim. 3:16).</span></li>
</ul>
<p style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">
<p lang="en-AU"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">Is God&#8217;s Word truth and reliable OR are we dealing with mythmaking where 82% of what Jesus said is WRONG?   How can be test these documents to see if they are trustworthy? </span></span>Most of you will never read these books, but the content of them is driving what you are hearing on the mass media today about Jesus. </span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">If I say that I believe the Bible in its entirety is the Word of God, and without error in all that it affirms, no news reporter will show up to interview me.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">But the response is totally different if a group of high profile theologians rolls the coloured beads to decide which of the words of Jesus are true.  They come up with only 18% of his words in the Gospels are what he said and the rest are inventions by the early church &#8211;  the mass media will be along in droves.  And that&#8217;s exactly what is happening.  You watch what happens around Easter and Christmas!</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">We must have answers.  Our young people must not be allowed to drown in this sea of attack on the word of God at school and university.  We have good answers and we must provide them.</p>
<p class="msonormal" lang="en-AU"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>E.  Let&#8217;s Vote on Jesus</strong></span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="line-height: 150%; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">Starting in 1985, a group of Bible scholars got together to decided if the words of Jesus in the Gospels were authentic.  &#8220;At the close of debate on each agenda item, Fellows of the Seminar [that's what they were called, male &amp; female] voted, using colored beads to indicate the degree of authenticity of Jesus&#8217; words.  Dropping colored beads into a box became the trademark of the [Jesus] Seminar . . .&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref13" href="#_ftn13"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[13]</span></span></span></a></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">This is what they found:</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;">The Jesus Seminar colour code roughly translates to:</span></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU"><span style="color: #ff0000;"><strong>Red bead: That&#8217;s Jesus!</strong></span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU"><span style="color: #ff00ff;"><strong>Pink bead: Sure sounds like Jesus.</strong></span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU"><span style="color: #0000ff;"><strong>Grey bead: Well, maybe.</strong></span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU"><strong>Black bead: There&#8217;s been some mistake.</strong></p>
<p style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;">[Robert W. Funk,  Roy W. Hoover &amp; The Jesus Seminar, <em>The Five Gospels</em> (Macmillan, 1993, p. 37)]</span></span></p>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Symbol;"><span lang="en-AU">· </span></span><span lang="en-AU">A </span><span lang="en-AU"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">red</span></span><span lang="en-AU"> slip meant that  &#8220;Jesus undoubtedly said this or something like it.&#8221;  In brief: &#8220;That&#8217;s Jesus.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2.25cm; text-indent: -0.64cm; text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Symbol;"><span lang="en-AU">· </span></span><span lang="en-AU">A </span><span lang="en-AU"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">pink</span></span><span lang="en-AU"> slip indicated that &#8220;Jesus probably said something like this.&#8221;  In brief: &#8220;Sure sounds like Jesus.&#8221;</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2.25cm; text-indent: -0.64cm; text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Symbol;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span lang="en-AU">· </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Symbol;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span lang="en-AU"> </span></span></span><span lang="en-AU"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Grey</span></span><span lang="en-AU">: &#8220;Jesus did not say this, but the ideas contained in it are close to his own.&#8221;  In brief: &#8220;Well, maybe.&#8221;</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2.25cm; text-indent: -0.64cm; text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Symbol;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span lang="en-AU">· </span></span></span><span style="font-family: Symbol;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span lang="en-AU"> </span></span></span><span lang="en-AU">A </span><span lang="en-AU"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">black</span></span><span lang="en-AU"> slip meant &#8220;Jesus did not say this; it represents the perspective or content of a later or different tradition.&#8221;  In brief: &#8220;There&#8217;s been some mistake.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref14" href="#_ftn14"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[14]</span></span></span></a></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">After tabulating the results of their voting, the Jesus Seminar asserts, &#8220;Eighty-two percent of the words ascribed to Jesus in the gospels were not actually spoken by him.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref15" href="#_ftn15"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[15]</span></span></span></a><span lang="en-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">The Beatitudes and the Sermon on the Mount [Matthew chs. 5-7] took a hiding in the balloting.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2.54cm; text-indent: -0.64cm; text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Symbol;"><span lang="en-AU">· </span></span><span lang="en-AU">&#8220;Blessed are the peacemakers&#8221; was given a miss. </span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2.54cm; text-indent: -0.64cm; text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Symbol;"><span lang="en-AU">· </span></span><span lang="en-AU">&#8220;Blessed are the meek&#8221; received &#8220;six timid red and pink votes out of 30 cast.&#8221;</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2.54cm; text-indent: -0.64cm; text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Symbol;"><span lang="en-AU">· </span></span><span lang="en-AU">Overall, only three out of twelve of the blessings and woes of the Beatitudes from Matthew&#8217;s Gospel were accepted as authentic.</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2.54cm; text-indent: -0.64cm; text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Symbol;"><span lang="en-AU">· </span></span><span lang="en-AU">We could ignore this as a party game by liberal scholars, but it is an attitude that is often found in evangelical churches and assemblies.  We have to battle a tendency to accept the Scriptures on our terms and not on God&#8217;s. </span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">If we are to be Christians of substance, I am convinced that we need to accept the Bible in its entirety as the Word of God.  How can we do that?  Listen to some thinking from those associated with the church.</p>
<p class="msonormal" lang="en-AU"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>F.  What Some Theologians Are Saying</strong></span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="line-height: 150%; text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">Some theologians are leading the push to make Jesus fit into the trendy modern mould of what our modern secular culture wants.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2cm; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">1.  Former Episcopalian (Anglican) Bishop John Spong (USA)</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">In his book, <em>Born of a Woman</em> [please note, the book is not titled, <em>Born of a Virgin</em>, and that is deliberate.  Spong makes the outlandish suggestion that Mary, the mother of Jesus, conceived Jesus illegitimately.  The early church as a cover-up invented the virgin birth.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">In talking about the birth story of Jesus in Luke 2, Spong asks: "Is it true? . .  The answer is, of course, no! . .  There was no biologically literal virgin birth. . .  In all probability Jesus was born in Nazareth in a very normal way either as the child of Mary and Joseph, or else he was an illegitimate child that Joseph validated by acknowledging him as Joseph's son.  All that can be stated definitely is that the echoes of the status of illegitimacy appear to be far stronger in the text then the suggestion that Jesus was Mary's child by Joseph."</span><a name="_ftnref16" href="#_ftn16"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[16]</span></span></span></a></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2cm; text-indent: -1.27cm; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU"> 2.  Barbara Thiering (Australia)</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">In her book, <em>Jesus: The Man</em>, she claims that Jesus didn&#8217;t die on the cross.  He was poisoned and then revived.  He married and raised three children.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2cm; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">3.  Roman Catholic theologian, John Dominic Crossan (USA)</span></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0.42cm; margin-bottom: 0.42cm; text-align: left;"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span lang="en-AU">I</span></span><span lang="en-AU">n his book, called </span><span lang="en-AU"><em>The Historical Jesus</em></span><span lang="en-AU"> (1991), he states that Jesus did not rise from the dead.  Jesus was buried in a shallow grave; the body was dug up and eaten by dogs</span><span style="font-size: x-small;"><span lang="en-AU">.</span></span><a name="_ftnref17" href="#_ftn17"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[17]</span></span></span></a></p>
<p style="margin-top: 0.42cm; margin-bottom: 0.42cm; text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">Please understand that when these liberal theologians like Crossan speak of &#8220;the historical Jesus,&#8221; they are:</p>
<ul>
<li><span style="font-family: Symbol;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">NOT speaking about Jesus as he lived in history;</span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">They are using a technical term, a reconstruction of Jesus;</span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">The &#8220;historical Jesus&#8221; is the one who can be explained in scientific, historical, purely human categories;</span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">Anything miraculous is myth because supernatural events defy history and cannot be called history.  They are mythological.</span></span></li>
<li><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">So, in reality, their so-called historical Jesus is the unhistorical invention of these critics.  They are creating Jesus in their own image and calling him &#8220;the historical Jesus.&#8221;</span></span><a name="_ftnref18" href="#_ftn18"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">18]</span></span></span></a></li>
</ul>
<p lang="en-AU"><span style="font-size: small;">I am convinced that Charles Colson is correct when he states that:</span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 2cm; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">&#8220;Taken together, books like these can create a widespread climate of opinion that the Bible is simply a collection of myths and errors.  Even evangelical Christians may gradually accept the same principle and begin to separate faith from facts.  The Bible is true in its </span><span lang="en-AU"><em>spiritual</em></span><span lang="en-AU"> message, they say, but full of errors in its </span><span lang="en-AU"><em>history</em></span><span lang="en-AU">.&#8221;</span><a name="_ftnref19" href="#_ftn19"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[19]</span></span></span></a></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">There was an SBS television series here in Australia in 1999.  It was called, &#8220;From Jesus to Christ,&#8221; and presented the views of people like those from the Jesus Seminar.  After watching one episode of that program, a Christian came to me,  utterly devastated.  She said something like:</p>
<ul>
<li><span lang="en-AU">&#8220;Have I been deceived?</span></li>
<li><span lang="en-AU">Have I believed a lie all this time?</span></li>
<li><span lang="en-AU">The biblical scholars on that program said that the words of Jesus couldn&#8217;t be trusted as accurate or truthful.</span></li>
<li><span lang="en-AU">In fact, they are saying that about 80% of the words that the NT puts in Jesus&#8217; mouth DID NOT come from him at all.  The early church inserted them in the Bible because the church wanted us to believe that.</span></li>
<li><span lang="en-AU">I need some answers.  Is this true that the early church put words in Jesus&#8217; mouth?  These scholars say it is.&#8221;</span></li>
</ul>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">In the Bible, faith can never be separated from historical facts.  To talk about the &#8220;Jesus of faith&#8221; vs. &#8220;the Jesus of history&#8221; is nonsensical.  Remember what Paul said in I Corinthians 15?  &#8220;If Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so it your faith . . .  And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins&#8221; (vv. 14, 17).  If Jesus was not raised from the dead&#8211;historical fact&#8211;your faith is worthless.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">Besides, if we accept the premise that the Bible is wrong, we become butchers.  We start the chopping job.  How are we going to decide what is believable and what is to be chucked out?  If we start tampering with the Bible, we will be trying to make Jesus to fit what we want.  Our prejudices will make Jesus into the image we want him to be.</span><a name="_ftnref20" href="#_ftn20"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[20]</span></span></span></a></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">I&#8217;d like to introduce you to a rather different approach to judo.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">
<p class="msonormal" lang="en-AU"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>G.  The Judo Technique</strong></span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="line-height: 150%; text-align: left;"><span lang="en-AU">I learned this when I was studying Jim Kennedy&#8217;s gospel presentation in </span><span lang="en-AU"><em>Evangelism Explosion</em></span><span lang="en-AU">.</span><a name="_ftnref21" href="#_ftn21"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[21]</span></span></span></a></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">Often as you begin presenting the gospel, the person will say something like, &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe the Bible.  You&#8217;ll have to convince me some other way than referring to the Scriptures.&#8221;  Many people are devastated by this objection.  What happens to them?  Their attempt to share Christ fizzles.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">This need not be the case.  I want to encourage you to use this objection as a springboard into the gospel itself.  The Apostle Paul, when he preached in Greek cities that had no background in the Bible, appealed to the Scriptures even though the people who listened to him did not believe the Bible.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">He proclaimed to them and the Holy Spirit used the proclamation to save some who then came to believe the Bible to be true.  When we witness, our primary function is to proclaim the gospel, not defence of the Bible.  BUT when people object to the Bible, we DO NEED good answers to respond.  And there ARE EXCELLENT answers.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">The judo technique works like this.  The objection, &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe the Bible,&#8221; is quite an easy one to deal with.  Don&#8217;t use the approach of a boxer who meets the blow head on and tries to overwhelm the opponent with counter punches.  Instead use the technique of the judo expert .  The force of the opponent&#8217;s blow is used to throw the opponent.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">Here&#8217;s how it works in presenting the gospel.  The person who objects, &#8220;I don&#8217;t believe the Bible,&#8221; usually has some university education, or has been exposed to some course in the Bible, or biblical criticism or something like that.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">There is often some intellectual pride that says or infers something like this: &#8220;I used to believe those fairy tales when I was in kindy, but now I am an educated person and am far above believing those things.&#8221;  It is this intellectual pride that can be used to turn this objection into an opportunity for presenting the gospel.  I suggest this kind of dialogue with the person who objects.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">&#8220;You don&#8217;t believe the Bible, John?  That&#8217;s very interesting and it certainly is your privilege not to believe it, and I would fight for that right on your part.  However, if the Bible is true then obviously you must accept the consequences.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">&#8220;But I would like to ask you a question.  The main message of the Bible, which has been unquestionably the most important literary work in human history, is how a person may have eternal life.  So what I would like to know is: What do you understand that the Bible teaches about how a person may have eternal life and go to heaven?&#8221;</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">He may say that he does not believe in eternal life.  To this you might say, &#8220;I&#8217;m not asking you what you believe, but I am asking you what you <em>understand</em>.  It would be a rather unintellectual approach to reject the world&#8217;s most important book without understanding even its main message, would it not?  What do you <em>understand</em> that the Bible teaches as to how a person may have eternal life?  What is your <em>understanding</em> about what the Bible teaches on this subject?&#8221;</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">My experience is that over 90% will respond by saying that it is by keeping the Ten Commandments or following the Golden Rule or imitating the example of Christ, doing good, or something like that.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">You might respond something like this: &#8220;That is just what I was afraid of, John.  You have rejected the Bible without even understanding its main message, for your answer is not only incorrect, but it is diametrically opposite to what the Bible teaches.  Now, don&#8217;t you think that the more intellectual approach would be to let me share with you what the Scriptures teach on this subject and then you can make an intelligent decision whether to reject or accept it?&#8221;</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">Now the tables have been completely turned.  Instead of being superior to the Scripture and even above listening to it, he now finds himself ignorant of even its basic message.  Now he must decide whether to listen to the message of the Scriptures or be found to be not only ignorant but also some obscure person who opposes intellectual advancement &#8212; and wants to remain in his ignorance.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">This is the last thing in the world that his intellectual pride will allow him to be.  So, very often he will give you permission to tell him the gospel.  It is at this point that you pray with vigour that the Holy Spirit will take the gospel, which is the power of God to salvation, and use it to awaken him from the deadness because of sin.</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">If he persists that he will not discuss anything further with you until you deal with his objection I suggest the following pre-evangelism approach (apologetics):</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">
<p class="msonormal" lang="en-AU"><span style="font-size: small;"><strong>H.  You need to begin with the existence of God</strong></span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="line-height: 150%; text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">Hebrews 11:6 (NIV) states. &#8220;And without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him.&#8221;</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">Will you please think through how you could present a case for the existence of the Almighty God who is the Father of the Lord Jesus Christ – to somebody who doesn&#8217;t know the Lord?</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">What would be your starting point?</p>
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;" lang="en-AU">
<p class="msonormal" style="text-align: left;"><strong>Endnotes:</strong></p>
<div id="ftn1" style="text-align: left;" dir="ltr">
<p><a name="_ftn1" href="#_ftnref1"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[1]</span></span></span></a> <span lang="en-AU">See &#8220;History of the Old Testament Canon,&#8221; 	in   Norman L. Geisler &amp; William E. Nix, </span><span lang="en-AU"><em>A 	General Introduction to the Bible</em></span><span lang="en-AU"> (rev. &amp; expanded).  Chicago: Moody Press, 1986, pp. 	238-239.</span></div>
<div id="ftn2" style="text-align: left;" dir="ltr">
<p><a name="_ftn2" href="#_ftnref2"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[2]</span></span></span></a> <span lang="en-AU">In Michael P. Green (Ed.), </span><span lang="en-AU"><em>Illustrations 	for Biblical Preaching</em></span><span lang="en-AU"> (#1065). Grand 	Rapids, Michigan: Baker Book House, 1982, p. 285.</span></div>
<div id="ftn3" style="text-align: left;" dir="ltr">
<p class="msonormal"><a name="_ftn3" href="#_ftnref3"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[3]</span></span></span></a> <span lang="en-AU">Retrieved on May 7, 2002 from </span><a href="http://www.submission.org/suras/sura2.htm"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">http://www.submission.org/suras/sura2.htm </span></span></a><span lang="en-AU">The Glorious Quran, An Authorized English Version: Translated from the original by Dr. Rashad Khalifa, Ph.D.</span></p>
</div>
<div id="ftn4" style="text-align: left;" dir="ltr">
<p><a name="_ftn4" href="#_ftnref4"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[4]</span></span></span></a> <span lang="en-AU">Based on Walter Martin, </span><span lang="en-AU"><em>The 	Kingdom of the Cults</em></span><span lang="en-AU">.  	Minneapolis, Minnesota: Bethany House Publishers, 1985, pp. 366-67.</span></div>
<div id="ftn5" style="text-align: left;" dir="ltr">
<p><a name="_ftn5" href="#_ftnref5"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[5]</span></span></span></a> <span lang="en-AU">Josh McDowell &amp; Don Stewart, </span><span lang="en-AU"><em>Answers 	to Tough Questions</em></span><span lang="en-AU">.  San 	Bernardino, California: Here&#8217;s Life Publishers, 1980, pp. 147-148.</span></p>
<p class="msonormal"><span lang="en-AU"><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><strong>Note:</strong></span></span><strong> </strong><span lang="en-AU">The four points in McDowell &amp; Stewart 	seem to be an abbreviated version, taken from John W. Montgomery&#8217;s 	points for the &#8220;</span><span lang="en-AU"><strong>crux validation</strong></span><span lang="en-AU">&#8221; 	of the New Testament:</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2cm; text-indent: -1.27cm;"><span lang="en-AU">a. 	 On the basis of accepted principles of textual and historical 	analysis, the Gospel records are found to be trustworthy historical 	documents &#8212; primary source evidence for the life of Christ,</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2cm; text-indent: -1.27cm;"><span lang="en-AU">b. 	 In these records, Jesus exercises divine prerogatives and claims to 	be God in human flesh; and He rests His claims on His forthcoming 	resurrection.</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2cm; text-indent: -1.27cm;"><span lang="en-AU">c. 	 In all four Gospels, Christ&#8217;s bodily resurrection is described in 	minute detail; Christ&#8217;s resurrection evidences His deity.</span></p>
<p class="msonormal" style="margin-left: 2cm; text-indent: -1.27cm;"><span lang="en-AU">d. 	 The fact of the resurrection cannot be discounted on </span><span lang="en-AU"><em>a 	priori</em></span><span lang="en-AU">, philosophical grounds; 	miracles are impossible only if one so defines them &#8212; but such 	definition rules out proper historical investigation.</span></p>
<p lang="en-AU">If Christ is God, then He speaks the truth 	concerning the absolute divine authority of the Old Testament and of 	the soon-to-be-written New Testament.  [John Warwick 	Montgomery, <em>The Suicide of Christian Theology</em>.  	Minneapolis, Minnesota: Bethany Fellowship Inc., 1970, n. 58, p. 	306.  Montgomery writes that this summary is based on his book, 	<em>Shape of the Past</em>, n. 26, pp. 138-39.]</p>
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<div id="ftn6" style="text-align: left;" dir="ltr">
<p><a name="_ftn6" href="#_ftnref6"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[6]</span></span></span></a> <span lang="en-AU">London: Angus &amp; Robertson Publishers, 1973 	(3</span><sup><span lang="en-AU">rd</span></sup><span lang="en-AU"> Ed.).</span></div>
<div id="ftn7" style="text-align: left;" dir="ltr">
<p><a name="_ftn7" href="#_ftnref7"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[7]</span></span></span></a> <span lang="en-AU">Ibid., back cover.</span></div>
<div id="ftn8" style="text-align: left;" dir="ltr">
<p><a name="_ftn8" href="#_ftnref8"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[8]</span></span></span></a> <span lang="en-AU">Ibid., p. vii.</span></div>
<div id="ftn9" style="text-align: left;" dir="ltr">
<p><a name="_ftn9" href="#_ftnref9"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[9]</span></span></span></a> <span lang="en-AU">Robert W. Funk, Roy W. Hoover and the Jesus 	Seminar, </span><span lang="en-AU"><em>The Five Gospels: The Search 	for the Authentic Words of Jesus</em></span><span lang="en-AU">.  	New York: Macmillan Publishing Company (A Polebridge Press Book).</span></div>
<div id="ftn10" style="text-align: left;" dir="ltr">
<p><a name="_ftn10" href="#_ftnref10"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[10]</span></span></span></a> <span lang="en-AU"><em>Josephus: Complete Works</em></span><span lang="en-AU"> (William Whiston, trans.).  Grand Rapids, Michigan: Kregel 	Publications, 1960.</span></div>
<div id="ftn11" style="text-align: left;" dir="ltr">
<p><a name="_ftn11" href="#_ftnref11"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[11]</span></span></span></a> <span lang="en-AU">Earle E. Cairns, </span><span lang="en-AU"><em>Christianity 	Through the Centuries</em></span><span lang="en-AU">.  Grand 	Rapids, Michigan: Zondervan Publishing House, 1981, p. 46.</span></div>
<div id="ftn12" style="text-align: left;" dir="ltr">
<p><a name="_ftn12" href="#_ftnref12"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[12]</span></span></span></a> <span lang="en-AU"><em>Josephus</em></span><span lang="en-AU">, 	20.9.1, p. 423.</span></div>
<div id="ftn13" style="text-align: left;" dir="ltr">
<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[13]</span></span></span><span lang="en-AU"> R. W. Funk, R. W. Hoover, and the Jesus Seminar, </span><span lang="en-AU"><em>The 	Five Gospels: The Search for the Authentic Words of Jesus</em></span><span lang="en-AU">.  	New York: Macmillan Publishing Company (A Polebridge Press Book), 	1993, p. 34.</span></div>
<div id="ftn14" style="text-align: left;" dir="ltr">
<p><a name="_ftn14" href="#_ftnref14"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[14]</span></span></span></a> <span lang="en-AU">Ibid., pp. 36-37.</span></div>
<div id="ftn15" style="text-align: left;" dir="ltr">
<p class="msonormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><a name="_ftn15" href="#_ftnref15"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[15]</span></span></span></a> <span lang="en-AU">Ibid., p. 5</span><span style="font-size: medium;"><span lang="en-AU">. </span></span></p>
<p><a name="_ftn16" href="#_ftnref16"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[16]</span></span></span></a> <span lang="en-AU">John Shelby Spong, </span><span lang="en-AU"><em>Born 	of a Woman: A Bishop Rethinks the Birth of Jesus</em></span><span lang="en-AU">. 	San Francisco: HarperSanFrancisco, 1992, pp. 157-158.</span></div>
<div id="ftn17" style="text-align: left;" dir="ltr">
<p><a name="_ftn17" href="#_ftnref17"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[17]</span></span></span></a> <span lang="en-AU">Section B is adapted from &#8220;Color-Coding the 	Gospels,” in Charles Colson with Nancy R. Pearcey, </span><span lang="en-AU"><em>A 	Dangerous Grace: Daily readings</em></span><span lang="en-AU">.  	Dallas: Word Publishing, 1994, 14-15.</span></div>
<div id="ftn18" style="text-align: left;" dir="ltr">
<p><a name="_ftn18" href="#_ftnref18"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[18]</span></span></span></a> <span lang="en-AU">George Eldon Ladd in </span><span lang="en-AU"><em>The 	New Testament and Criticism</em></span><span lang="en-AU"> makes some 	of these point. Grand Rapids, Michigan: William B. Eerdmans 	Publishing Company, 1967, p. 195.  Ladd was particularly speaking of 	Rudolf Bultmann, but the application is strong to the Jesus Seminar 	conclusions.</span></div>
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<p><a name="_ftn19" href="#_ftnref19"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[19] </span></span></span></a><span lang="en-AU">Ibid.</span></div>
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<p><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU"><span style="font-style: normal;"><span>[20] </span></span></span></span></span><span lang="en-AU"><span style="font-style: normal;">Based 	on</span></span> <span lang="en-AU">ibid., pp. 15-16.</span></div>
<p style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-family: Times New Roman;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span lang="en-AU">[21]</span></span></span><span lang="en-AU">Australian Edition published by Evangelism Explosion Ministries Australia, PO Box 1686, Wollongong 2500, 1983, pp. 84-85.</span></p>
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This is a 4-part series.  Also see:
Can you trust the Bible? Part 1
Can you trust the Bible? Part 3
Can you trust the Bible? Part 4
A. What are some of the reasons why we need to defend the Bible  today?
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p align="center">(Part 2 of 4 parts)</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">This is a 4-part series.  Also see:</p>
<p><a href="../2009/02/23/can-you-trust-the-bible-part-1/"><span style="font-size: small;">Can you trust the Bible? Part 1</span></a></p>
<p><a href="../2009/02/23/can-you-trust-the-bible-part-3/"><span style="font-size: small;">Can you trust the Bible? Part 3</span></a></p>
<p><a href="../2009/04/27/can-you-trust-your-bible-part-4/"><span style="font-size: small;">Can you trust the Bible? Part 4</span></a></p>
<h4><strong>A. What are some of the reasons why we need to defend the Bible  today?</strong></h4>
<p>See “<a href="../2009/02/23/can-you-trust-the-bible-part-1/">Can  you Trust the Bible?  Part 1</a>.”</p>
<h4><strong>B. Where are we going in this 4-part series?</strong></h4>
<p>See “<a href="../2009/02/23/can-you-trust-the-bible-part-1/">Can  you Trust the Bible?  Part 1</a>.”</p>
<h4><strong>C. You need to begin with the existence of God</strong></h4>
<p>Hebrews 11:6 (NIV): And without faith it is impossible to please God, because  anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those  who earnestly seek him.</p>
<h4><strong>D. I asked you to think on evidence for the existence of  God.</strong></h4>
<p>I suggested taking a look at two passages of Scripture that give us  some pointers for the existence of God:</p>
<ol>
<li>Psalm 19 (Read vv. 1-3)</li>
<li>Romans 1 (read vv. 18-20)</li>
</ol>
<p>One of the finest defenders of the existence of God is leading apologist, Dr.  William Lane Craig.  I recommend you read his articles on <a href="http://www.leaderu.com/offices/billcraig/menus/existence.html">the  existence of God</a>.</p>
<p>Now, back to our topic.  What tests do historians apply to any piece of literature of history to  determine if it is accurate or reliable?</p>
<p>Military historian, C. Sanders says there are 3 basic principles of checking  the authenticity of historical writings (historiography). I&#8217;ll use the acronym,  T.I.E.S., to help us remember them:</p>
<ul>
<li>
<ul>
<li>the <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Transmission test</span></strong> (sometimes called, the bibliographical  test) &#8212; NOT biographical, but biblio = books; graphical = writing. The  Transmission test. That&#8217;s the &#8220;T&#8221;.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li>the <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Internal evidence</span></strong> test &#8212; that&#8217;s the &#8216;I&#8221;, and</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> the <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">External evidence</span></strong> test &#8212; that&#8217;s the &#8220;E&#8221;.<a name="_ednref1" href="#_edn1">[1]</a></li>
<li> we&#8217;ll get to the <strong>&#8220;</strong><strong>S&#8221;</strong> later, but I want you to think about  what it might be to make it T.I.E.S. What ties this all together?</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ul>
<p>Let&#8217;s subject the N.T. to the</p>
<p><strong>1. TRANSMISSION TEST</strong></p>
<p>The transmission test is an examination of how the documents reached us from  when they were written. Since we don&#8217;t have the original documents, how reliable  are the copies we have in:</p>
<ul>
<li>number of manuscripts (MSS)?</li>
<li> time interval between the original and the earliest copy?</li>
</ul>
<p><strong>a. </strong><strong>NEW TESTAMENT</strong></p>
<p><strong><span style="font-size: small;">Transmission Test for Historical Documents (incl. New  Testament)</span></strong></p>
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<td width="124" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><strong>Author/</strong><strong>Book</strong></span></td>
<td width="119" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;"><strong>Date</strong> <strong>Written</strong></span></td>
<td width="117" valign="top"><strong><span style="font-size: x-small;">Earliest Copies</span></strong></td>
<td width="92" valign="top"><strong><span style="font-size: x-small;">Time Gap (years)</span></strong></td>
<td width="93" valign="top"><strong><span style="font-size: x-small;">Number of Copies</span></strong></td>
<td width="65" valign="top"><strong><span style="font-size: x-small;">Percentage Accuracy</span></strong></td>
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<td width="124" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">Hindu <em>Mahabharata</em></span></td>
<td width="119" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">13<sup>th</sup> century BC</span></td>
<td width="117" valign="top"></td>
<td width="92" valign="top"></td>
<td width="93" valign="top"></td>
<td width="65" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">90</span></td>
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<td width="124" valign="top">
<h4><span style="font-size: x-small;">Plato</span></h4>
</td>
<td width="119" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">c. 400 BC</span></td>
<td width="117" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">A.D. c. 900</span></td>
<td width="92" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">1300 </span></td>
<td width="93" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">7</span></td>
<td width="65" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">7</span></td>
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<td width="124" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">Homer, <em>Iliad</em></span></td>
<td width="119" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">900 BC (900-700 BC)</span></td>
<td width="117" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">400 BC ?</span></td>
<td width="92" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">500 </span></td>
<td width="93" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">643</span></td>
<td width="65" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">95</span></td>
</tr>
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<td width="124" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">Demosthenes</span></td>
<td width="119" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">300 BC</span></td>
<td width="117" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">c. AD 1100</span></td>
<td width="92" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">1,400 </span></td>
<td width="93" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">200</span></td>
<td width="65" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">?</span></td>
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<td width="124" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">Caesar, <em>Gallic Wars</em></span></td>
<td width="119" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">100-144 BC</span></td>
<td width="117" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">AD 900</span></td>
<td width="92" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">1,000 </span></td>
<td width="93" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">10</span></td>
<td width="65" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">?</span></td>
</tr>
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<td width="124" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">Tacitus, <em>Annals</em></span></td>
<td width="119" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">AD 100</span></td>
<td width="117" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">AD 1100</span></td>
<td width="92" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">1,000</span></td>
<td width="93" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">20</span></td>
<td width="65" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">?</span></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td width="124" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">Pliny Secundus, <em>Natural  History</em></span></td>
<td width="119" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">AD 61-112</span></td>
<td width="117" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">c. AD 850</span></td>
<td width="92" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">750</span></td>
<td width="93" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">7</span></td>
<td width="65" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">?</span></td>
</tr>
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<td width="124" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">New Testament</span></td>
<td width="119" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">AD 50-100</span></td>
<td width="117" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">c. 114 (fragment)<br />
c. 200 (books)<br />
c.  250 (most of NT)<br />
c. 325 (whole NT)</span></td>
<td width="92" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">c. +/- 50<br />
c. 100<br />
c. 150<br />
c.  225</span></td>
<td width="93" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">5,366 (Greek)<br />
24,000+ (with other  translations)</span></td>
<td width="65" valign="top"><span style="font-size: x-small;">99*</span></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p><span style="font-size: x-small;">Comparison of Ancient Manuscript totals (Josh McDowell,  <em>Christianity: Hoax or History?</em> Tyndale House Publishers, 1989, pp. 50-51;  Norman L. Geisler &amp; William E. Nix, <em>A General Introduction to the  Bible</em>, Moody Press, 1986, p. 408)</span></p>
<p><strong><br />
</strong></p>
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<p><em> </em><em></em></p>
<h4><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">My assessment</span></strong>:</h4>
<p>I am in total agreement with the late Sir Frederic G. Kenyon, formerly  director and principal librarian of the British Museum, who wrote <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">just  before</span></strong> his death:</p>
<p>&#8220;The interval then between the dates of original composition and the earliest  extant evidence becomes so small as to be in fact negligible, and the last  foundation for any doubt that the Scriptures have come down to us substantially  as they were written has now been removed. Both the <em>authenticity</em> and the  <em>general integrity</em> of the books of the New Testament may be regarded as  <em>finally established</em>.&#8221;<a name="_ednref2" href="#_edn2">[2]</a></p>
<p>Please understand:</p>
<ul>
<li>These people who were used by the Lord to write the NT, were living in a  hostile culture. The disciples could not afford to risk inaccuracies. They would  dare not manipulate the facts because they would be pounced on at once by those  who would be glad to discredit them.</li>
</ul>
<ul>
<li> Also remember that a witness must testify of his/her own knowledge. When we  apply this to the NT, we see clearly that we have primary evidence from  eyewitnesses. I John 1:1, &#8221; That which was from the beginning, which we have  <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">heard</span></strong>, which we have <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">seen with our eyes</span></strong>, which we  have <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">looked at</span></strong> and our hands <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">have touched</span></strong>&#8211;this we  proclaim concerning the Word of life (NIV).&#8221;<a name="_ednref3" href="#_edn3">[3]</a></li>
</ul>
<p>In determining if the NT is a trustworthy and accurate document, historians  use 3 tests. I am suggesting these 3, PLUS one more that is summarised by the  acronym: T.I.E.S.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ve looked at the &#8220;T,&#8221; the transmission of the text, now to the &#8220;I&#8221;.</p>
<h4><strong>2. INTERNAL EVIDENCE TEST</strong></h4>
<p>So far, we&#8217;ve determined, beyond reasonable doubt, that the text we have is  what was originally recorded. BUT WE STILL HAVE TO DETERMINE THAT THE DOCUMENTS  ARE CREDIBLE, AND TO WHAT EXTENT. This is the second test of historicity given  by Sanders. Historical and literary scholarship follows Aristotle&#8217;s dictum, &#8220;The  benefit of the doubt is to be given to the document itself, not arrogated by the  critic to himself.&#8221;</p>
<p>In the words of leading lawyer, apologist and theologian, John Warwick  Montgomery, &#8220;This means that one must listen to the claims of the document under  analysis, and not assume fraud or error unless the author disqualifies himself  by contradictions or known factual inaccuracies.&#8221;<a name="_ednref4" href="#_edn4">[4]</a></p>
<p>The historian must examine the ability of the writer or witness to tell the  truth. This <span style="text-decoration: underline;">ABILITY TO TELL THE TRUTH</span> is closely related to HOW CLOSE THE  WITNESS WAS TO THE EVENT GEOGRAPHICALLY AND HOW CLOSE IN TIME TO THE EVENTS  RECORDED.</p>
<p>The N.T. accounts of the life and teaching of Jesus were recorded by people  who had been <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">either eyewitnesses</span></strong> or who <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">related the accounts  of eyewitnesses</span></strong>.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s look at the evidence:</p>
<blockquote>
<h5><strong>1. Biblical Evidence</strong></h5>
</blockquote>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Luke 1:1-3 (NIV)</span>: Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the  things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us  <span style="text-decoration: underline;">by those who from the first were eyewitnesses</span> and servants of the word.  Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the  beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most  excellent Theophilus.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Luke 3:1</span>: In the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar&#8211;when  Pontius Pilate was governor of Judea, Herod tetrarch of Galilee, his brother  Philip tetrarch of Iturea and Traconitis, and Lysanias tetrarch of Abilene&#8211;</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">John 19:35</span>: The man who <span style="text-decoration: underline;">saw it</span> has given testimony, and his  <span style="text-decoration: underline;">testimony is true</span>. He knows that he <span style="text-decoration: underline;">tells the truth</span>, and he  testifies so that you also may believe.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">1 John 1:3</span>: We proclaim to you what we have <span style="text-decoration: underline;">seen and heard</span>, so  that you also may have fellowship with us. And our fellowship is with the Father  and with his Son, Jesus Christ.</p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">2 Peter 1:16</span>: We did not follow <span style="text-decoration: underline;">cleverly invented stories</span> when  we told you about the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but we were  <span style="text-decoration: underline;">eyewitnesses</span> of his majesty.</p>
<p><strong>The internal evidence test reveals we are dealing with  <span style="text-decoration: underline;">eyewitnesses</span>, those who <span style="text-decoration: underline;">saw</span> and <span style="text-decoration: underline;">heard</span>. More than  that</strong><strong>:</strong></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Acts 2:22</span>: demonstrated how they appealed to the people who heard  their message. &#8220;Men of Israel, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man  accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you  through him, as you yourselves know.&#8221;</p>
<p>Note the emphasis:</p>
<p>a. &#8220;God did among you through him.&#8221; In other words, you were there; you were  eyewitnesses of these things;</p>
<p>b. Also, &#8220;as you yourselves know.&#8221; You know what we are saying is true.</p>
<p>They could not depart from the truth. There were hostile witnesses there to  refute them.<a name="_ednref5" href="#_edn5">[5]</a></p>
<p><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Acts 26:24-26</span>: At this point Festus interrupted Paul&#8217;s defence. &#8220;You  are out of your mind, Paul!&#8221; he shouted. &#8220;Your great learning is driving you  insane.&#8221; &#8220;I am not insane, most excellent Festus,&#8221; Paul replied. &#8220;What I am  saying is <span style="text-decoration: underline;">true and reasonable</span>. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The king is familiar with these  things</span>, and I can speak freely to him. I am convinced that none of this has  escaped his notice, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">because it was not done in a corner</span>.&#8221;</p>
<p>They not only said, &#8220;Look, we saw this . . . We heard that.&#8221; But the tables  were turned in the full view of hostile witnesses, adverse critics. &#8220;You also  know about these things, you saw them, they weren&#8217;t done in a secret corner.&#8221;<a name="_ednref6" href="#_edn6">[6]</a></p>
<blockquote>
<h5><strong></strong><strong>2. Fulfilled Prophecy</strong><a name="_ednref7" href="#_edn7"><strong>[7]</strong></a></h5>
</blockquote>
<p>For some key OT prophecies concerning Christ and their NT fulfillment, see “<strong><a href="../2009/02/23/can-you-trust-the-bible-part-3/">Can  you trust the Bible? Part 3</a>.”</strong></p>
<blockquote>
<h5><strong>3. Literal Interpretation</strong></h5>
</blockquote>
<p>&#8220;<em>Those who accept the Bible as the Word of God are often accused of taking  the Bible literally</em>. The question &#8216;Do you believe the Bible literally?&#8217; is  like the question, &#8216;Have you stopped beating your wife?&#8217; Either a Yes or a No  convicts the one who responds. Whenever the question is asked, the term  &#8216;<em>literally</em>&#8216; must be carefully defined. Taking a literal view of the Bible  does not mean that we can&#8217;t recognize that figures of speech are used in the  Scripture. When Isaiah spoke of &#8220;trees clapping their hands&#8221; (Isaiah 55:12) and  the psalmist of &#8220;mountains skipping like rams&#8221; (Psalms 114:4, 6), it is not to  be thought that one takes the Bible literally views such statements as literal.  No, there is poetry as well as prose and other literary forms in the Bible.  <strong>We believe that the Bible is to be interpreted in the sense in which the  authors intended it to be received by readers. This is the same principle one  employs when reading the newspaper, [Shakespeare or poet, William  Wordsworth]</strong>. And it is remarkably easy to distinguish between figures of  speech and those statements a writer intends his readers to take literally.&#8221;<a name="_ednref8" href="#_edn8">[8]</a></p>
<p>If you are checking out the reliability of any written manuscript from  history, you</p>
<p>need to apply these three tests:</p>
<p>T: Transmission Test</p>
<p>I: Internal Evidence Test</p>
<p>E: External Evidence Test</p>
<p><strong>(<a href="../2009/02/23/can-you-trust-the-bible-part-3/">continued  in Part 3</a>)</strong></p>
<hr size="1" /><a name="_edn1" href="#_ednref1">[1]</a>C. Sanders, <em>Introduction to Research  in English Literary History</em>. New York: MacMillan Company, 1952, pp. 143 ff.</p>
<p><a name="_edn2" href="#_ednref2">[2]</a>Sir Frederic Kenyon, <em>The Bible and  Archaeology</em>. New York: Harper and Row, 1940, pp. 288f, in Norman Geisler and  William Nix, <em>A General Introduction to the Bible</em> (Revised and Expanded).  Chicago: Moody Press, 1968, 1986, p. 405; also in Josh McDowell, <em>More Than a  Carpenter</em>. Eastbourne, Sussex, England: Kingsway Publications, 1977, p. 48.</p>
<p><a name="_edn3" href="#_ednref3">[3]</a> Suggested by John Warwick Montgomery,  <em>The Law Above the Law</em>. Minneapolis, Minnesota: Bethany House Publishers,  1975, p. 88.</p>
<p><a name="_edn4" href="#_ednref4">[4]</a> John Warwick Montgomery, <em>History  and Christianity</em>. Minneapolis, Minnesota: Bethany House Publishers, 1965, p.  29.</p>
<p><a name="_edn5" href="#_ednref5">[5]</a> Suggested by F. F. Bruce, <em>The New  Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?</em> Leicester, England: Inter-Varsity  Press, 1960, p. 46.</p>
<p><a name="_edn6" href="#_ednref6">[6]</a> Concerning the primary-source value of  the N.T. records, the late F.F. Bruce, former Professor [Rylands Professor of  Biblical Criticism and Exegesis] in the University of Manchester, says:</p>
<p>&#8220;The earliest preachers of the gospel knew the value of the first-hand  testimony, and appealed to it time and again. &#8216;We are witnesses of these  things,&#8217; was their constant and confident assertion. And it can have been by no  means so easy as some writers seem to think to invent words and deeds of Jesus  in those early years, when so many of His disciples were about, who could  remember what had and had not happened. . .</p>
<p>&#8220;And it was not only friendly eyewitnesses that the early preachers had to  reckon with; there were others less well disposed who were also conversant with  the main facts of the ministry of Jesus. The disciples could not afford to risk  inaccuracies (not to speak of wilful manipulation of the facts), which would at  once be exposed by those who would be only too glad to do so. On the contrary,  one of the strong points in the original apostolic preaching is the confident  appeal to the knowledge of the hearers; they not only said, &#8216;We are witnesses of  these things,&#8217; but also, &#8216;As you yourselves also know&#8217; (Acts 2:22). Had there  been any tendency to depart from the facts in any material respect, the possible  presence of hostile witnesses in the audience would have served as a further  corrective.&#8221; F. F. Bruce, The New Testament Documents: Are They Reliable?  Leicester, England: Inter-Varsity Press, 1960, pp. 45-46.</p>
<p><a name="_edn7" href="#_ednref7">[7]</a> From D. James Kennedy, <em>Evangelism  Explosion</em>, third edition, 1983, pp. 86-88 (from Evangelism Explosion  Ministries Australia, PO Box 1686, Wollongong, 2500).</p>
<p><a name="_edn8" href="#_ednref8">[8]</a> Paul Little, <em>Know Why You  Believe</em> (rev. ed.). Wheaton, IL: Victor Books, 1967, 1980, 1987, pp. 54-55,  emphasis added.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a 4-part series.  See also:
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INTRODUCTION
 
Hebrews 4:12 (ESV) says: &#8220;For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and [...]]]></description>
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<p><a href="../2009/02/23/can-you-trust-the-bible-part-1/"><span style="font-size: small;">Can you trust the Bible? Part 1</span></a></p>
<p><a href="../2009/02/23/can-you-trust-the-bible-part-2/"><span style="font-size: small;">Can you trust the Bible? Part 2</span></a></p>
<p><a href="../2009/04/27/can-you-trust-your-bible-part-4/"><span style="font-size: small;">Can you trust the Bible? Part 4</span></a></p>
<h1><span style="font-size: 16pt;" lang="EN-AU">INTRODUCTION</span></h1>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Hebrews 4:12 (ESV) says: &#8220;For the word of God is living and active, sharper than any two-edged sword, piercing to the division of soul and of spirit, of joints and of marrow, and discerning the thoughts and intentions of the heart.&#8221;<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>I was reminded of the truth of this text when I read of </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">&#8220;a short-term missionary [who] gave a report on her experience overseas.<span> </span>She and several others were entering a communist country.<span> </span>At the border the guards asked them, &#8216;Do you have any guns, drugs, or Bibles?&#8217;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>&#8220;What an interesting combination!<span> </span>Guns are weapons of destruction that kill the body.<span> </span>Drugs can alter and distort the mind.<span> </span>The Bible can expose and destroy all that is false.<span> </span>But it is much more than a threat to atheism.<span> </span>It can enrich life, instill hope, and free the human spirit even when a person is confined [in a prison camp for spreading the Gospel].<span> </span>No wonder an atheistic government would fear its power and put it in a class with guns and drugs.&#8221;<a name="_ednref1" href="#_edn1"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[1]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">I read the story of &#8220;a young boy who was in the habit of going to church.<span> </span>[But he] was unable to attend one Sunday because he was ill.<span> </span>So he went upstairs to his bedroom and read his Bible.<span> </span>He was unusually quiet, and his mother began wondering if he was up to some mischief.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>&#8220;Finally she called out, &#8216;What are you doing, Andy?&#8217;<span> </span>He replied, &#8216;I&#8217;m watching Jesus raise Lazarus from the dead!&#8221;<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>What a beautiful answer!<span> </span>He was reading John 11, and his childlike faith made the scene come alive.<a name="_ednref2" href="#_edn2"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[2]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>Someone has said that there are three stages of Bible study:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">First, the &#8220;cod-liver oil&#8221; stage, where you take it like medicine because it&#8217;s good for you.<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">The second is the &#8220;shredded-wheat biscuit&#8221; stage &#8212; dry but nourishing;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">And third, is the &#8220;mango and ice-cream&#8221; stage &#8212; really enjoyable.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">Which stage have you reached?<a name="_ednref3" href="#_edn3"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[3]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>In spite of the fact that it is a VERY OLD book, the Bible is still &#8220;the most popular and widely read book in the world with <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">more than one hundred million new copies</span></strong>, in whole or in part, <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">produced every year</span></strong>.&#8221;<a name="_ednref4" href="#_edn4"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[4]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>But at what a price?<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">On October 6, 1536, William Tyndale was burned at the stake because he </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">dared to translate the Bible into English so that the common person could read it.<span> </span>In <em>Foxe&#8217;s Book of Martyrs</em> it records this: </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">At last after much reasoning, when no reason would serve, although he deserved no death, he was condemned by virtue of the emperor&#8217;s decree, made in the Assembly at Augsburg.<span> </span>Brought forth to the place of execution, he was tied to the stake, strangled by the hangman, and afterwards consumed with fire, at the town of Filford, A.D. 1536; crying at the stake with a fervent zeal, and a loud voice, &#8220;Lord! Open the King of England&#8217;s eyes.&#8221;<a name="_ednref5" href="#_edn5"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[5]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">Why would people like Tyndale and others risk their very lives to translate the Scriptures into the native language of people?<span> </span>We have the Bible in English today, thanks to the work of Christian martyr, William Tyndale, and earlier by John Wycliffe who made his &#8220;first version of the New Testament in Middle English&#8221; in 1380, &#8220;and a second edition appeared in 1388 after his death. . . The first edition was a word-for-word translation of the New Testament from the Latin Vulgate, in places following the Latin so closely that the meaning was obscure.&#8221;<a name="_ednref6" href="#_edn6"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[6]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></a><span> </span>Wycliffe lived from about 1329-1384.<a name="_ednref7" href="#_edn7"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[7]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>&#8220;There are several major differences between Wycliffe&#8217;s translation and Tyndale&#8217;s:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">&#8220;1.<span> </span>Wycliffe&#8217;s Bible was a translation of Jerome&#8217;s Latin Vulgate [Jerome lived ca. 340-420], but Tyndale&#8217;s went back to the original Greek and Hebrew. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">&#8220;2.<span> </span>Wycliffe&#8217;s Bible was a hand-copied manuscript, whereas Tyndale&#8217;s Bible was printed.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">&#8220;3.<span> </span>Wycliffe translated into Middle English, but Tyndale&#8217;s version belongs to the Modern English period.&#8221;<a name="_ednref8" href="#_edn8"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[8]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent: 36pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">&#8220;Why would generations of Hebrew scribes meticulously copy the Old Testament Scriptures, repeatedly checking their work letter by letter, even counting the letters to ensure their accuracy? </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>&#8220;The answer lies in the belief that the Bible is the very Word of God, thus necessitating its accurate transmission and its availability to people of any language.&#8221;<a name="_ednref9" href="#_edn9"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[9]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">Why is the Bible considered to be the Word of God and how can we know </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">its accuracy and trustworthiness?<span> </span>We&#8217;re travelling on a journey of attempting to validate the Bible.<span> </span>Can you trust your Bible?<span> </span>Today this is such a critical issue because of the anti-God, anti-Bible culture here in Australia.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>It is especially important because Islam is on the march.<span> </span>The Quran, Sura 2:2, says: &#8220;<strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">This scripture [the Quran] is infallible</span>; a beacon for the righteous</strong>.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>2 Tim.<span> </span>3:16 (ESV)<span> </span>&#8220;All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness.&#8221;<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>Jesus said: John 17:17 (ESV)<span> </span>&#8220;Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.&#8221;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>Which ones are you to believe?<span> </span>I am not making a blasphemous statement.<span> </span>We must provide answers for this generation:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">The Quran says it is the infallible Scripture;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 54pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">The NT says that all of the Bile is &#8220;breathed out by God&#8221; (inspired by God).<span> </span>Jesus said, &#8220;Your word is truth?&#8221;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">How do we validate one against the other?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>So far, I have suggested two historical tests that historians use for ANY historical document, including the Quran and the Bible, Captain Cook&#8217;s writings or the works of Shakespeare.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>If we want to test the trustworthiness of any historical document, historians put it through 3 tests (PLUS something that TIES them together) suggested by the acronym: T.I.E.S.</span></p>
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<li><span class="Heading3Char"><span style="font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;" lang="EN-AU"> First: T: The Transmission Test</span></span><strong><span style="font-size: 16pt; line-height: 150%; letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">, </span></strong></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 90pt; text-indent: -18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span>a.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> The number of MSS;<span> </span>(5,366 Gk MSS; 24,000+ with other languages).<span> </span>Only one that comes close is Homer&#8217;s Iliad, 643 MSS (earliest copy, 500 years after the original writing);</span><strong></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 90pt; text-indent: -18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span>b.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> Time interval between the writing of MSS and the earliest copy. </span><strong></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 90pt; text-indent: -18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family: Symbol;"><span>c.  <span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-AU">ca. 114 (fragment), John 18:31-33, 37-38 (written on both sides) &#8212; in the John Rylands Library, Manchester, England;<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 90pt; text-indent: -18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family: Symbol;"><span>d.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-AU">ca. 200 (books)<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 90pt; text-indent: -18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family: Symbol;"><span>e.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-AU"> ca. 250 (most of NT)<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 90pt; text-indent: -18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-family: Symbol;"><span>f.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-AU"> ca. 325 (whole NT)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 90pt; text-indent: -18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span>g.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span lang="EN-AU"> These NT books were written between 50-100 A.D.</span><strong></strong></p>
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<li><strong></strong><span class="Heading3Char"><span style="font-size: 18pt; line-height: 150%;" lang="EN-AU"> Second: “I” = the Internal evidence test</span></span><strong><span style="font-size: 16pt; line-height: 150%; letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">, </span></strong></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 90pt; text-indent: -36pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span>A.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Listen to the claims made in the document.<span> </span>Do NOT assume error;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 90pt; text-indent: -36pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span>B.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Those who wrote the N.T. were eyewitnesses who saw and heard OR they got their information from eyewitnesses;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 90pt; text-indent: -36pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span>C.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">There were hostile people around at the time who would refute the information if it were false.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Let&#8217;s take a look at test for historical authenticity, No. 3, E:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%; letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<h3><span lang="EN-AU">C.<span> </span><span style="text-decoration: underline;">THE EXTERNAL EVIDENCE TEST</span></span></h3>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 14pt; letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span></span><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">In the External Evidence Test, we look for evidence outside of the Bible that confirms people, places and events in the Bible.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>1.<span> </span>Secular Evidence for Jesus</span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>a.<span> </span>Jewish Historian, Josephus, (A.D. 37-100)</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Eminent NT scholar, the late F.F. Bruce says: </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>&#8220;Here in the pages of Josephus, we meet many figures who are well-known to us from the New Testament: the colourful family of the Herods; the Roman emperors Augustus, Tiberius, Claudius, and the procurators of Judea; the high priestly families&#8211;Annas, Caiaphas, Ananias, and the rest; the Pharisees and the Sadducees; and so on&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref10" href="#_edn10"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[10]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Josephus wrote of &#8220;the brother of Jesus, who was called Christ, whose name was James . . .&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref11" href="#_edn11"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[11]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">There is also a disputed passage (that I do NOT recommend that you use) in <em>Antiquities of the Jews</em> that reads like this:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>&#8220;Now there was about this time [he means Pilate's time, AD 26-36] Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man, for he was a doer of wonderful works &#8212; a teacher of such men who receive the truth with pleasure.<span> </span>He drew over to him both many Jews, and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men against us, had condemned him to the cross,</span><a name="_ednref12" href="#_edn12"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[12]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day,</span><a name="_ednref13" href="#_edn13"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[13]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> as the divine prophets had foretold these and many other wonderful things concerning him.<span> </span>And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref14" href="#_edn14"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[14]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Michael Green says &#8220;no attempts to impugn its authenticity can be said to have succeeded.<span> </span>It has as good attestation as anything in Josephus, it is included in all the manuscripts.<span> </span>We know that the fourth century Christian historian Eusebius had this quote in his copy of Jospehus.<span> </span>He quoted it twice&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref15" href="#_edn15"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[15]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
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<li><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt; font-family: Wingdings;"> </span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">There&#8217;s sarcasm here by Josephus when he writes: &#8220;if it be lawful to call him a man.”<span> </span>This might be a back-handed hint at Jesus&#8217; claims to be God;</span></li>
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<ul>
<li><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt; font-family: Wingdings;"><span><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">It may have been a Christian insertion by a copyist when he wrote, &#8221; He was [the] Christ,&#8221; but it could just as easily refer to the sign that was on the cross when Jesus died, &#8220;This is Jesus, the King of the Jews&#8221; or &#8220;the King of the Jews&#8221; (Mt. 27:37Mark 15:26; Luke 23:38 NIV).</span></li>
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<ul>
<li><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt; font-family: Wingdings;"><span><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Even if the statement about Christ&#8217;s resurrection reflects a Christian insertion (and there is no evidence that it has been fiddled with, based on manuscript evidence), here we have a passage in a leading Jewish historian at the time of Christ who gives &#8220;powerful, independent testimony to the historical reality of Jesus of Nazareth.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref16" href="#_edn16"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[16]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a></li>
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<li><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt; font-family: Wingdings;"><span><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">It <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">does seem too extensive and specific</span></strong> to have come from a Jew who was not a follower of Christ, but the manuscript evidence does not support such a claim.</span><a name="_ednref17" href="#_edn17"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[17]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">What can we conclude from Josephus?</span></p>
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<li><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">There was so much circumstantial evidence that they even found their way into the apologetic work of the Jewish historian Josephus.</span></li>
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<li><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">If there was anybody who should have kept his lips shut and his ink pen dry about the person of Jesus, it would have had to be Josephus.<span> </span>But that was not the case.</span></li>
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<p><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> b.<span> </span>Roman Historian, Cornelius Tacitus (AD 55?&#8211;after 117)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">A contemporary of Pliny (whom we will meet soon), he is considered the greatest historian of Imperial Rome.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>Michael Green explains:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>&#8220;He tells us how the Christians, hated by the populace for their `crimes&#8217; (alluding no doubt to the Christian emphasis on `love&#8217; which was given a sinister twist by the pagans and construed as incest) were made scapegoats for the Great Fire of AD 64 by the Emperor Nero.<span> </span>`The name Christian,&#8217; he writes, `comes to them from Christ, who was executed in the reign of Tiberius by the procurator Pontius Pilate; and the pernicious cult, suppressed for a while, broke out afresh and spread not only through Judea, the source of the disease, but in Rome itself, where all the horrible and shameful things in the world collect and find a home.&#8217;&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref18" href="#_edn18"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[18]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">He wrote of Nero&#8217;s attempt to relieve himself of the guilt of burning Rome:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>&#8220;Hence to suppress the rumor [ie. that Nero had set fire to the city of Rome], he falsely charged with the guilt, and punished with the most exquisite tortures, the persons commonly called Christians, who were hated for their enormities.<span> </span>Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate, procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius: but the pernicious superstition, repressed for a time broke out again, not only through Judea, where the mischief originated, but through the city of Rome also.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref19" href="#_edn19"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[19]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoBodyText2" style="line-height: normal;"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>c.<span> </span>Greek satirist, Lucian (second century)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">He alludes to Christ as:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt; text-indent: -36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>&#8220;a man who was crucified in Palestine because he introduced this new cult into the world. . . Furthermore, their first lawgiver persuaded them that they were all brothers one of another after they have transgressed once for all by denying the Greek gods and by worshipping that crucified sophist himself and living under his laws.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref20" href="#_edn20"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[20]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>d.<span> </span>Roman historian, Suetonius (about AD 120)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">He was a court official under Emperor Hadrian.<span> </span>He made two specific references to Jesus.<span> </span>He wrote: &#8220;As the Jews were making constant disturbances at the instigation of Chestus [another spelling of Christus or Christ], he expelled them from Rome&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref21" href="#_edn21"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[21]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">.<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>In the <em>Lives of the Caesars</em>,</span><a name="_ednref22" href="#_edn22"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[22]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> Suetonius wrote: &#8220;Punishment by Nero was inflicted on the Christians, a class of men given to a new and mischievous superstition.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref23" href="#_edn23"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[23]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>e.<span> </span>Pliny the Younger (about AD 112)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">He was governor of the province of Bithynia (now in northern Turkey) and was writing to the emperor, Trajan, about his achievements.<span> </span>He gave information on how he had killed multitudes of Christians&#8211;men, women and children.<span> </span>He said that he had attempted to &#8220;make them curse Christ, which a genuine Christian cannot be induced to do.&#8221;<span> </span>In the same letter</span><a name="_ednref24" href="#_edn24"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[24]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> he wrote of Christians:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>&#8220;They were in the habit of meeting on a certain fixed day before it was light, when they sang in alternate verse a hymn to Christ as to a god, and bound themselves to a solemn oath, not to do any wicked deeds, and never to deny a truth when they should be called upon to deliver it up.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref25" href="#_edn25"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[25]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>f.<span> </span>Samaritan-born historian, Thallus (about AD 52)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoBodyText"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">His work is lost, but a fragment of it is preserved in the second-century writer, Julius Africanus (ca. A.D. 221), who tells us:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; text-align: justify; text-indent: -36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>&#8220;Thallus, in the third book of his histories, explains away this darkness [at the time of the crucifixion] as an eclipse of the sun&#8211;unreasonably, as it seems to me.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref26" href="#_edn26"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[26]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">It is &#8220;unreasonable&#8221; because a solar eclipse could not take place at the time as the full moon.<span> </span>It was the time of the Passover (paschal) full moon when Christ died.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>g.<span> </span>Mara Bar-Serapion (after AD 73)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">In a Syriac manuscript in the British  Museum, there is a remarkable letter which this man wrote to his son in prison (although some say it was Mara who was in prison).<span> </span>He compares the deaths of Socrates, Pythagoras, and Jesus:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>&#8220;What advantage did the Athenians gain from putting Socrates to death?<span> </span>Famine and the plague came upon them as a judgment for their crime.<span> </span>What advantage did the men of Samos gain from burning Pythagoras?<span> </span>In a moment their land was covered with sand.<span> </span><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">What advantage did the Jews gain from executing their wise King?</span></strong><span> </span>It was just after that that their kingdom was abolished. . . But Socrates did not die for good; he lived on in the teaching of Plato.<span> </span>Pythagoras did not die for good; he lived on in the statue of Hera.<span> </span>Nor did the wise King die for good; he lived on in the teaching which he had given.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref27" href="#_edn27"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[27]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoBodyText" style="text-align: left;" align="left"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><span> </span>h.<span> </span>The Jewish Talmud (completed by AD 500)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">The Talmud consists of &#8220;two books known as the Babylonian Talmud and the Jerusalem Talmud. . .<span> </span>They contain the oral teaching of earlier rabbis (Mishnah), which was an explanation of the law of Moses together with discussions of this teaching (Gemara).<span> </span>Christian scholars find these helpful for knowledge of Jewish interpretations of the Hebrew Bible.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref28" href="#_edn28"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[28]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>The Babylonian Talmud</span><a name="_ednref29" href="#_edn29"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[29]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>contains this explicit reference to Jesus:</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>&#8220;On the eve of Passover they hanged Yeshu (of Nazareth) and the herald went before him for forty days saying (Yeshu of Nazareth) is going to be stoned in that he hath practiced sorcery and beguiled and led astray Israel.<span> </span>Let everyone knowing aught in his defense come and plead for him.<span> </span>But they found naught in his defense and hanged him on the eve of Passover.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref30" href="#_edn30"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[30]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">In another Talmud section, it was written concerning Jesus: &#8220;I found a genealogical roll in Jerusalem wherein was recorded, Such-an-one is a bastard of an adulteress.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref31" href="#_edn31"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[31]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>Jewish belief was that Jesus was an illegitimate son and demon-possessed, similar to accusations against him in the N.T.</span><a name="_ednref32" href="#_edn32"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[32]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">If we combine this secular testimony to Christ, what picture do we get? </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt; text-indent: -36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">(1)<span> </span>&#8220;Jesus was crucified under Pontius Pilate at Passover time.<span> </span></span></p>
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<li><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><span> </span>Jewish leaders charged Christ with sorcery and believed he was born of adultery.<span> </span></span></li>
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<li><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"><span> </span><span> </span>The Judean sect of Christianity could not be contained but spread even to Rome.<span> </span></span></li>
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<li><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>Nero and other Roman rulers bitterly persecuted and martyred early Christians.<span> </span></span></li>
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<li><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span><span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>These early Christians denied polytheism, lived dedicated lives according to Christ&#8217;s teachings, and worshiped Christ.<span> </span>This picture is perfectly congruent with that of the New Testament.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref33" href="#_edn33"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[33]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%; letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>2.<span> </span>Archaeological Confirmation of the New Testament</span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">While there has been confirmation of the general outline of New Testament history, I will focus on Luke&#8217;s writings. There are hundreds of archaeological finds that support specific persons, events and facts presented in Luke-Acts, including some that were once thought to be incorrect.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>a.<span> </span>Official titles</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">We need to especially note Luke&#8217;s correct usage of official titles.<span> </span>He calls the rulers of Thessalonica &#8220;politarchs&#8221; in Acts 17:6, 8.</span><a name="_ednref34" href="#_edn34"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[34]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> In the NIV it is translated as &#8220;city officials.&#8221;<span> </span>It means &#8220;magistrates&#8221; and </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">&#8220;was once dismissed as a mistake of the writer of Acts. . . because the term did not appear in any other context.<span> </span>Seventeen examples from [inscriptions] now are listed. . .</span><a name="_ednref35" href="#_edn35"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[35]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>The examples cover a century and a half from the beginning of the first century to the middle of the second.<span> </span>One is housed in the British Museum and came from an archway in Salonika.<span> </span>The same inscription, curiously enough, contains names that occur among those listed as members of the Thessalonian church.<span> </span>It is obviously a Macedonian term, and its use conforms to Luke&#8217;s consistent practice of employing the correct official terminology commonly accepted.<span> </span>In similar fashion he called the petty officials of the Roman colony of Philippi &#8216;praetors.&#8217;&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref36" href="#_edn36"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[36]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Gallio was the &#8220;Proconsul of Achaia.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref37" href="#_edn37"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[37]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">The <em>grammateus</em></span><a name="_ednref38" href="#_edn38"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[38]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> was in Ephesus (Acts 19:35).<span> </span>He was the &#8220;city clerk&#8221; (NIV) or &#8220;recorder.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref39" href="#_edn39"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[39]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">The governor of Cyprus was a &#8220;proconsul.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">The leading person in Malta was called &#8220;the chief official of the island&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref40" href="#_edn40"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[40]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> or &#8220;leading man of the island&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref41" href="#_edn41"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[41]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">(a title confirmed in Greek and Latin inscriptions).<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">In Philippi (Acts 16:30) the &#8220;magistrates&#8221; (NIV) were known as <em>strategoi</em> (in the Greek.).<span> </span>&#8220;All of these have been confirmed by inscriptions [outside of the Bible].<span> </span>The scenes [Luke] paints of Athens, Corinth, Ephesus and the journey to Rome ring absolutely true in the ears of those best able to judge.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref42" href="#_edn42"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[42]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">These descriptions were once thought to be part of the fertile imagination of Luke the fantasiser.<span> </span>Now, they have solid historical backing, thanks to the meticulous work of archaeologists.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>b.<span> </span>Chronological references</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Luke is known to be correct in these references.<span> </span>He refers to &#8220;Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene&#8221; at the time John the Baptist began his ministry (AD 27), once thought to be incorrect, but now confirmed to be correct by Greek inscriptions.<span> </span>Lysanias was tetrarch between AD 14 and 29.<span> </span>Other chronological references are known to be correct, including those referring to Caesar, Herod, and even Gallio (Acts 18:12-17).</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>Numerous places in the Gospels, including the Pool of Siloam (John 9:7-11) and the &#8220;judgment seat&#8221; near Corinth (2 Cor. 5:10) have been verified by archaeology.<span> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>Other names of persons mentioned in the N.T. that were thought to be false, have been confirmed through archaeology.<span> </span>Another example:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>A first-century marble slab was found at Corinth in 1929 with this inscription, &#8220;Erastus, in consideration of his appointment as curator of buildings, laid this pavement at his own expense.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref43" href="#_edn43"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[43]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>It is possible that this person is Erastus, one of Paul&#8217;s co-workers from whom Paul sent greetings according to Rom. 16:23.<span> </span>He was the city treasurer in Corinth.</span><a name="_ednref44" href="#_edn44"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[44]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>[For other examples, see Michael Green, <em>World on the Run</em>, pp. 40-42]</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>c.<span> </span>Conclusions</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">These kinds of archaeological finds cause eminent people to reach some startling conclusions.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span><strong>A.N. Sherwin-White</strong>, distinguished Roman historian, says this about Luke&#8217;s writings: &#8220;For [the Book of] Acts the confirmation of historicity is overwhelming. . .<span> </span>Any attempt to reject its basic historicity even in matters of detail must now appear absurd.<span> </span>Roman historians have long taken it for granted.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref45" href="#_edn45"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[45]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>Luke is commended by classical historian, <strong>G.A. Williamson</strong>, for demonstrating &#8220;complete familiarity with the thought, expression, and habitual terminology of the speakers, and . . . what memories the people of that time possessed!&#8211;if not on written notes, which we have reason to believe were commonly made.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref46" href="#_edn46"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[46]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>Thanks to the archaeological efforts of the late Sir William Ramsay, many of the critical views of the N.T. have been overthrown.<span> </span>Ramsay himself was converted from the critical view of liberal theology.<span> </span>He wrote:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>&#8220;I began with a mind unfavorable to it [Book of Acts], for the ingenuity and apparent completeness of the Tubingen theory had at one time quite convinced me.<span> </span>It did not lie then in my line of life to investigate the subject minutely; but more recently I found myself often brought into contact with the book of Acts as an authority for the topography, antiquities, and society of Asia Minor.<span> </span>It was gradually borne in upon me that in various details the narrative showed marvelous truth.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref47" href="#_edn47"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[47]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Renowned archaeologist and paleographer</span><a name="_ednref48" href="#_edn48"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[48]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">, <strong>William F. Albright</strong>, notes: &#8220;All radical schools in New Testament criticism which have existed in the past or which exist today are pre-archaeological, and are, therefore, since they were built <em>in der Luft</em> [in the air], quite antiquated today.&#8221;</span><a name="_ednref49" href="#_edn49"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[49]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>Let&#8217;s recap.<span> </span>If we want to test the trustworthiness of any historical document, historians put it through 3 tests:</span></p>
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<li>
<h3><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 150%;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;" lang="EN-AU"> First: T: The Transmission Test, </span></h3>
</li>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 90pt; text-indent: -18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size: 10pt; letter-spacing: -0.15pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span>a.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">The number of MSS;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 90pt; text-indent: -18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="font-size: 10pt; letter-spacing: -0.15pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span>b.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Time interval between the writing of MSS and the earliest copy.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -36pt; line-height: 150%;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<ul>
<li>
<h3><span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;" lang="EN-AU"><span> </span></span><span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;" lang="EN-AU"> Second: I: the Internal evidence test, </span></h3>
</li>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt; text-indent: -18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span>a.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Listen to the claims made in the document.<span> </span>Do NOT assume error;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt; text-indent: -18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span>b.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Those who wrote the N.T. were eyewitnesses who saw and heard OR they got their information from eyewitnesses;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 72pt; text-indent: -18pt;"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span>c.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;"> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">There were hostile people around at the time who would refute the information if it were false.</span></p>
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<li><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span><span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;" lang="EN-AU"> <strong>Third, E: the External evidence test.</strong><a name="_ednref50" href="#_edn50"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><strong><span style="font-size: 14pt; letter-spacing: -0.15pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[50]</span></strong></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></a></span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">We heard from historians of the NT period and after the NT times:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Josephus;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Tacitus;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Lucian;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Suetonius;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Pliny the Younger;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Thallus;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Mara Bar-Serapion;</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">Jewish Talmud.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;" lang="EN-AU">The N.T. documents can be relied upon to give an accurate picture of Jesus Christ.<span> </span>Let&#8217;s go to those documents and investigate who Jesus Christ is and why He died on the cross.</span></p>
<h1><span style="font-size: 16pt;" lang="EN-AU">Conclusion:</span></h1>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><span style="font-size: 14pt; line-height: 150%;" lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU">The Psalmist loved the Word of God.<span> </span>Listen to some of his words about the Word in Psalm 119:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span lang="EN-AU">Psalm 119:11</span></span></strong><span lang="EN-AU"> (ESV)<span> </span>I have stored up [OR, hid] your word in my heart, that I might not sin against you. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span lang="EN-AU">Psalm 119:16</span></span></strong><span lang="EN-AU"> (ESV)<span> </span>I will delight in your statutes; I will not forget your word.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span lang="EN-AU">Psalm 119:97</span></span></strong><span lang="EN-AU"> (ESV)<span> </span>Oh how I love your law!<span> </span>It is my meditation all the day. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span lang="EN-AU">Psalm 119:103</span></span></strong><span lang="EN-AU"> (ESV)<span> </span>How sweet are your words to my taste, sweeter than honey to my mouth! </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span lang="EN-AU">Psalm 119:105</span></span></strong><span lang="EN-AU"> (ESV)<span> </span>Your word is a lamp to my feet and a light to my path. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: 14pt;" lang="EN-AU"><span style="text-decoration: none;"> </span></span></span></strong></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height: 150%;"><strong><span style="font-size: medium;">“One measure of your love for God is your love for God’s  Word”</span></strong><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><a name="_ednref51" href="#_edn51"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[51]</span></span></strong></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a></span></strong></p>
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<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn1" href="#_ednref1"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[1]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> <em>Our Daily Bread</em>, April 1, 1987, &#8220;Guns, Drugs, and the Bible.&#8221;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn2" href="#_ednref2"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[2]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> <em>Our Daily Bread</em>, August 5, 1987, &#8220;When the Bible comes alive.&#8221;</span></p>
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<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn3" href="#_ednref3"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[3]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Based on ibid.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn4" href="#_ednref4"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[4]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Paul D. Wegner, <em>The Journey from Texts to Translations: The Origin and Development of the Bible</em>.<span> </span>Grand   Rapids, Michigan: Baker Books, 1999, p. 19.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn5" href="#_ednref5"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[5]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> W. Grinton Berry (prepared by), <em>Foxe&#8217;s Book of Martyrs</em>,. Grand Rapids,  Michigan: Baker Book House, reprint 1978, pp. 151-152.<span> </span>Suggested by Wegner, ibid., p. 19,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn6" href="#_ednref6"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[6]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Wegner, p. 280.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn7" href="#_ednref7"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[7]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Ibid., p. 279.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn8" href="#_ednref8"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[8]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Ibid., p. 287.</span></p>
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<div id="edn9">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn9" href="#_ednref9"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[9]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Ibid., p. 19.</span></p>
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<div id="edn10">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn10" href="#_ednref10"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[10]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> F. F. Bruce, <em>The New Testament Documents</em>, p. 104.</span></p>
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<div id="edn11">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn11" href="#_ednref11"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[11]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> William Whiston, (transl.), <em>Josephus: Complete Works</em>: Grand Rapids,  Michigan: Kregel Publications1867, 1963, (<em>Antiquities of the Jews</em>.XX, IX:1) p. 423.</span></p>
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<div id="edn12">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn12" href="#_ednref12"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[12]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> A footnote is &#8220;A.D. 33, April 3.&#8221;</span></p>
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<div id="edn13">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn13" href="#_ednref13"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[13]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> A footnote, &#8220;April 5.&#8221;</span></p>
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<div id="edn14">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn14" href="#_ednref14"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[14]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Whiston, <em>Josephus</em>, XVIII, III. 3, p. 379.<span> </span>Michael Green, World on the Run, alerted me to this quote.<span> </span>Leicester, England: Inter-Varsity Press, 1983, p. 34.</span></p>
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<div id="edn15">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn15" href="#_ednref15"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[15]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Green, ibid. p. 34.</span></p>
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<div id="edn16">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn16" href="#_ednref16"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[16]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Ibid.</span></p>
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<div id="edn17">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn17" href="#_ednref17"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[17]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> These points about Josephus are gleaned from ibid.</span></p>
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<div id="edn18">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -36pt;"><a name="_edn18" href="#_ednref18"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[18]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-AU">Michael Green, <em>World on the Run</em>, p. 29, from <span style="letter-spacing: -0.15pt;"><span> </span>Tacitus&#8217; <em>Annals</em>, 15.44.</span></span></p>
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<div id="edn19">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn19" href="#_ednref19"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[19]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> <em>Tacitus Annals</em>, XV, 44; in Geisler, <em>Christian Apologetics</em>, p. 323.<span> </span>In Whiston, </span></p>
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><em><span lang="EN-AU">Josephus</span></em><span lang="EN-AU">, the quote is:</span></p>
<p class="MsoEndnoteText" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span lang="EN-AU">&#8220;Nero, in order to stifle the rumour [as if he himself had set Rome on fire] ascribed it to those people who were hated for their wicked practices, and called by the vulgar, <em>Christians</em>: these he punished exquisitely.<span> </span><em>The author of this name was Christ, who, in the reign of Tiberius, was brought to punishment by Pontius Pilate the procurator</em>&#8221; (Appendix, Dissertation I, p. 639, emphasis in original).</span></p>
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<div id="edn20">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt; text-indent: -36pt;"><a name="_edn20" href="#_ednref20"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[20]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt;" lang="EN-AU">On the Death of Peregrine, quoted in Geisler, <em>Christian Apologetics</em>, p. 323.</span></p>
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<div id="edn21">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn21" href="#_ednref21"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[21]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> <em>Life of Claudius</em>, 25.4, in Geisler, ibid., p. 324.</span></p>
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<div id="edn22">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn22" href="#_ednref22"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[22]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> 26.2, in, ibid.</span></p>
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<div id="edn23">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn23" href="#_ednref23"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[23]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> In, ibid.</span></p>
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<div id="edn24">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn24" href="#_ednref24"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[24]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> <em>Epistles</em> X. 96, in ibid.</span></p>
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<div id="edn25">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn25" href="#_ednref25"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[25]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> In ibid. </span></p>
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<div id="edn26">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn26" href="#_ednref26"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[26]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> In ibid., p. 324.</span></p>
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<div id="edn27">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn27" href="#_ednref27"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[27]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> In F. F. Bruce, <em>The New Testament Documents</em>, p. 114.<span> </span>This was suggested by Geisler, ibid.</span></p>
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<div id="edn28">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn28" href="#_ednref28"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[28]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU">J. D. Douglas, Walter A. Elwell and Peter Toon, <em>The Concise Dictionary of the Christian Tradition</em>.<span> </span>Grand   Rapids, Michigan: Regency Reference Library (Zondervan Publishing House, 1989, p. 370.</span></p>
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<div id="edn29">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn29" href="#_ednref29"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[29]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU">Sanhedrin 43a, &#8220;Ever of Passover,&#8221; according to Geisler, ibid.</span></p>
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<div id="edn30">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn30" href="#_ednref30"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[30]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> In Geisler, <em>Christian Apologetics</em>, p. 324</span></p>
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<div id="edn31">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn31" href="#_ednref31"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[31]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Yeb. IV 3; 49a, in Geisler, ibid., p. 325.</span></p>
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<div id="edn32">
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align: justify;"><a name="_edn32" href="#_ednref32"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[32]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span style="font-size: 14pt;" lang="EN-AU"> </span><span lang="EN-AU">In Geisler, ibid, pp. 324-325.</span></p>
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<div id="edn33">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn33" href="#_ednref33"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[33]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Ibid., p. 325.</span></p>
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<div id="edn34">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn34" href="#_ednref34"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[34]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"><span> </span>Greek <em>politarchos</em>, Acts 17:6, 8.</span></p>
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<div id="edn35">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn35" href="#_ednref35"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[35]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> See the <em>American Journal of Theology</em>, July 1898, pp 598-632.</span></p>
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<div id="edn36">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn36" href="#_ednref36"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[36]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> E. M. Blaiklock, &#8220;Politarch,&#8221; in Merril C. Tenney (gen. ed.), <em>The Zondervan Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible</em> (vol. 4).<span> </span>Grand Rapids, Michigan: Zondervan Publishing House, 1976, p. 815.</span></p>
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<div id="edn37">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn37" href="#_ednref37"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[37]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Acts 18:12 NIV.</span></p>
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<div id="edn38">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn38" href="#_ednref38"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[38]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Acts 19:35</span></p>
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<div id="edn39">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn39" href="#_ednref39"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[39]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Michael Green, <em>World on the Run</em>, p. 41.</span></p>
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<div id="edn40">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn40" href="#_ednref40"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[40]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Acts 28:7 NIV.</span></p>
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<div id="edn41">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn41" href="#_ednref41"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[41]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Acts 28:7 NASB.</span></p>
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<div id="edn42">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn42" href="#_ednref42"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[42]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Green, <em>World on the Run</em>, p. 41.</span></p>
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<div id="edn43">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn43" href="#_ednref43"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[43]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> Ibid.</span></p>
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<div id="edn44">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn44" href="#_ednref44"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[44]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> From ibid., 42.</span></p>
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<div id="edn45">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn45" href="#_ednref45"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[45]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> A. N. Sherwin-White, <em>Roman Society and Roman Law in the New Testament</em>.<span> </span>Oxford: Clarendon Press, 1963,<span> </span>p. 189, in Josh McDowell, <em>More Than a Carpenter</em>.<span> </span>Eastbourne: Kingsway Publications, 1979, p. 55..</span></p>
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<div id="edn46">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn46" href="#_ednref46"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[46]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> G. A. Williamson, <em>The World of Josephus</em>.<span> </span>London: Secker &amp; Warburg, 1964,<span> </span>p. 290, in Geisler, <em>Christian Apologetics</em>, p. 326.</span></p>
</div>
<div id="edn47">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn47" href="#_ednref47"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[47]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> William M. Ramsay, St. Paul the Traveller and the Roman Citizen.<span> </span>New York: G. P. Putnam&#8217;s Sons, 1896, p. 8, in Geisler, Christian Apologetics, p. 326.</span></p>
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<div id="edn48">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn48" href="#_ednref48"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[48]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> A paleographer is one who studies and gives scholarly interpretation to ancient written documents [based on the definition of "paleography" in William Morris (ed.), <em>The Heritage Illustrated Dictionary of the English Language</em>.<span> </span>Boston: American Heritage Publishing Co., Inc. and Houghton Mifflin Company, 1975, p. 944.]</span></p>
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<div id="edn49">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn49" href="#_ednref49"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[49]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> William F. Albright, &#8220;Retrospect and Prospect in New Testament Archaeology,&#8221; in <em>The Teacher&#8217;s Yoke</em>, ed. F. Jerry Vardaman, p. 29, in Geisler, <em>Christian Apologetics</em>, pp. 326-327.</span></p>
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<div id="edn50">
<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn50" href="#_ednref50"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[50]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU">C. Sanders, <em>Introduction to Research in English Literary History</em>.<span> </span>New York: MacMillan Company, 1952, pp. 143 ff.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoEndnoteText"><a name="_edn51" href="#_ednref51"><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span lang="EN-AU"><span><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: &quot;Times New Roman&quot;;">[51]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></a><span lang="EN-AU"> <em>Our Daily Bread</em>, March 11, 1987, &#8220;A Book to Be Loved.&#8221;</span></p>
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		<title>Excellent Questions to Ask about Christianity</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[ A thoughtful person with whom I dialogued on the www and through email said  to me: “If you would like to know why I have rejected Christianity, I will be  glad to tell you. Here are some [of my] reasons:”
1. In all of the OT there is not one word about anyone [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w :WordDocument> </w><w :View>Normal</w> <w :Zoom>0</w> <w :PunctuationKerning /> <w :ValidateAgainstSchemas /> <w :SaveIfXMLInvalid>false</w> <w :IgnoreMixedContent>false</w> <w :AlwaysShowPlaceholderText>false</w> <w :Compatibility> <w :BreakWrappedTables /> <w :SnapToGridInCell /> <w :WrapTextWithPunct /> <w :UseAsianBreakRules /> <w :DontGrowAutofit /> </w> <w :BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w> </xml>< ![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w :LatentStyles DefLockedState="false" LatentStyleCount="156"> </w> </xml>< ![endif]--> A thoughtful person with whom I dialogued on the www and through email said  to me: “If you would like to know why I have rejected Christianity, I will be  glad to tell you. Here are some [of my] reasons:”</p>
<p><strong>1. </strong>In all of the OT there is not one word about anyone being tortured  for eternity for not being a “good” person. Apparently the OT God was satisfied  with seeing his enemies lie as carrion upon the fields, but the so-called “good  news” of the NT is that this same God will now pursue his enemies beyond the  grave with NEVER-ENDING torments in hell. Besides, it seems supremely  contradictory to me that the same god who tells us to love and forgive OUR  enemies says that he will eternally torment his!!</p>
<p><strong>2. </strong>The Jewish people, who started all of this, NEVER expected that the  Messiah, when he came, to be the Almighty God. Most Christians have made a god  out of Jesus and in so doing realize that they have forfeited the unique  monotheism of the OT… But, hold on… they thought they could solve the problem of  their celestial mathematics, stating that one plus one plus one is NOT three,  but one!</p>
<p><strong>3. </strong>Jesus could not have been the Messiah, for the OT clearly states  that the Messiah would usher in world peace etc. The opposite happened. But  Christians thought they had saved the day with their doctrine of the “second  coming.” Without it, Christianity would have died long ago. The parousia  teaching is simply that we are to be patient, all the things that Jesus never  fulfilled will be taken care of when he comes again. And there is clear evidence  that Jesus and his followers thought that he would return in the lifetime of his  followers. 2000 years have just about passed and they’re still expecting it!!!</p>
<p><strong>4. </strong>The justice system of Christianity is monstrously and fiendishly  absurd. Most people would rightfully assume that a FINITE sin does NOT deserve  INFINITE punishment. The reward system consists of only two eventual  destinations. One, the most blissful and happy, the other, the most horrible and  tormenting. Is there nothing in between?</p>
<p><strong>5. </strong>Why did Jesus have to die? God’s creation turned out bad, we are  told. So what to do! In order to make things right, someone had to be murdered!!  If we believe the Trinity doctrine, we are left to believe that God arranged to  have himself murdered in order to placate himself! Patently absurd!! The  doctrine of the atonement is nothing but a replay of pervious PAGAN religions  with their angry gods, need for sacrifices and bloody altars.</p>
<p><strong>6. </strong>I believe that a person should be judged by what he/she does… not  by what one believes. Most of us acquire our belief orientation as a result of  our inherited genes, our parental upbringing and our environment. Besides, a  person could spend an entire lifetime doing good works, helping others and  giving most of his possessions to the needy, but end up in hell, when he died,  if he failed to believe in Jesus! While a person could spend a life of 80 years,  killing, committing arson, stealing etc. and end up in heaven for an eternity of  bliss, if just a few minutes before he died, he accepted Jesus!</p>
<p><strong>7. </strong>NO ONE HAS EVER ASKED TO BE BORN into this world with its many  conflicting religions, having to choose the right one, or face never-ending  torments in hell!! It seems to me that if your religion is true, the least that  your God could do would be to mercifully eliminate all of the non-Christian  religions. But… that would still leave literally hundreds of Christian bodies,  some of which regard the others as of the devil!!!</p>
<p><strong>8. </strong>The Christian religion should really be called PAULIANITY, because  Paul was the one who tied in the untimely murder of Jesus with the temple  sacrifices of the Hebrews.</p>
<p><strong>9. </strong>And I could never accept the Bible as the inerrant word of God,  because I believe that the all-knowing god could, and would, have caused to be  written a book that did NOT need endless apologetics!</p>
<p><strong>10. </strong>And finally, I believe that an all-loving God will REHABILITATE  instead of eternally damn most of HIS OWN CREATION, the SAME THING, I’ll bet  that you’d do with all of your wayward offspring!!</p>
<h3>How do we answer these penetrating questions?</h3>
<p>I will approach my response in three ways:</p>
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<li> <a href="../2009/02/18/religion-beliefs/">Religion  &amp; beliefs</a></li>
</ul>
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<li> <a href="../2009/02/17/who-is-jesus-why-did-he-die/">Who  is Jesus and why did he die?</a></li>
</ul>
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<li> <a href="../2009/02/17/problems-with-the-trinity-2/">Problems  with the Trinity</a></li>
</ul>
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<li> <a href="../2009/02/17/facts-about-hell/">Facts  about hell</a></li>
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<li> <a href="../2009/02/17/why-the-need-for-apologetics/">Why  the need for apologetics</a></li>
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		<title>Anglicans reject Christmas story</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some Anglican clergy in Australia no longer accept the Christian story.  Instead, they regard it as mythical (Cotes, 1997, p. 25).   The following are examples of this lack of faith from Cotes&#8217; article.

&#8220;True myths&#8221; is how she describes the view.  What next?

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Some Anglican clergy in Australia no longer accept the Christian story.  Instead, they regard it as mythical (Cotes, 1997, p. 25).   The following are examples of this lack of faith from Cotes&#8217; article.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;True myths&#8221; is how she describes the view.  What next?</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Yet, within the Anglican church in Australia (Sydney diocese) there are committed evangelical scholars who support the authenticity of the biblical revelation (see Barnett 1997, 1999).  Barnett (1999) demonstrates &#8220;that Jesus of Nazareth, the historical Jesus, became through death, bodily resurrection and ascension the Christ of faith.  In our view the Gospels faithfully portray Jesus as the Christ in his historic ministry&#8221; (p. 418).</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>However, according to Cotes, this is what the Anglican clergy believe who contend for the  &#8220;true myths&#8221; of the Bible.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;At least 70 serving priests of the Church of England no longer   are willing to pretend that they believe it [the Christmas story in the   Gospels] to be true and they have supporters among Roman Catholic and   Protestant clergy.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;They have   joined Sea of Faith, an organisation which rejects   belief in the traditional Christian story as told in the gospels.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;Members of Sea of Faith believe instead that `God&#8217; is   not a supernatural creator, but a mystical personal experience, a symbol of   the highest ideals and aspirations of human beings.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;The consensus   of opinion among most reputable biblical scholars is that the gospel accounts   of the Nativity cannot be accepted as historically accurate, and that other   explanations can be found for most of the details.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;The Star of   Bethlehem was not in any sense a miracle but a regular astronomical   occurrence on which scientifically ignorant people put their own magical   interpretation.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;Yet it&#8217;s such   a beautifully simple story &#8212; surely it must be true?&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;The authors   of Mark (the earliest gospel) and John (written at least 100 years after the   event)&#8230; had no time for sentimentality &#8212; or for biography. They were   writing theology.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;Modern   scholarship has shown that all the details of the Nativity story can be shown   to be the result of theological necessity rather than historical truth. .   .&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;Jesus almost   certainly was born in Nazareth.   . .&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;But even if   all the pretty stories people love about Christmas are not true, they don&#8217;t   necessarily have to be discarded.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;Myths are   very important and the myths surrounding the Christmas story are not just the   icing on the cake of the Nativity, nor just as an excuse to indulge   sentimental fantasies.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;They are more   than pious fiction, filling the tantalising blanks of a story about which   there is no real information.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;Myths are   important because the best of them can be a way of going behind the few facts   we have, to suggest ways of seeing than (sic) are different from our modern,   purely scientific and biographical approach.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;The Christmas   story is full of images and symbols, rather than verifiable facts, but it&#8217;s   not necessary for rational Christians to discard them.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;We can still   sing the hymns and worship the Christ Child and tell the stories to our   children with a clear conscience, for the stories have their own special kind   of truth.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;The question   that Christmas raises is not, `Are the stories true?&#8217; But rather `What do   these stories say about God and the link between the physical and the   spiritual?&#8217;&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;It is not   `Who were the Magi and the shepherds?&#8217; but `What do they mean?&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;These are the   questions that serious preachers will be examining this Christmas&#8230;   unhistorical wise men and their improbable ox and ass.&#8221; </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>&#8220;The figures   at the crib scene are all part of the great imaginative picture of Christmas   and behind this structure of imagery is the belief that this unrecorded lowly   birth of a child to an obscure carpenter&#8217;s wife was, when you consider what   developed from it, a decisive moment in history, when something genuinely new   began.&#8221;</span></p>
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<h2><span>Why don&#8217;t they leave the church?</span></h2>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>The Anglican creedal statements in the Thirty-Nine Articles of 1571, The Church of England, state: </span></p>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><strong><span>Concerning the God, the Holy Trinity</span></strong><span>: &#8220;There is      but one living and true God, everlasting, without body parts, or passions;      of infinite power, wisdom, and goodness; the Maker, and Preserver of all      things both visible and invisible.  And in unity of this Godhead      there be three Persons, of one substance, power, and eternity: The Father,      the Son, and the Holy Spirit&#8221; (Article I)</span></li>
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<li class="MsoNormal"><strong><span>The Word or Son of God: </span></strong><span>&#8220;The Son,      which is the Word of the Father, begotten from everlasting of the Father,      the very and eternal God, and of one substance with the Father, took Man&#8217;s      nature in the womb of the blessed Virgin, of her substance: so that two      whole and perfect Natures, that is to say, the Godhead and Manhood, were      joined together in one Person, never to be divided, whereof is one Christ,      very God and very Man. . .&#8221; (Article II)</span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Since the creed of the Anglican Church is contrary to the belief of these 70 priests who deny the content the Christmas story, why don&#8217;t they leave the church?  Surely when one&#8217;s beliefs are counter to the church&#8217;s fundamental beliefs, it requires integrity to leave the organisation.  What other entity in the world would allow its employees to &#8220;sell&#8221; another product and yet remain within the organisation?<br />
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<h2><span>The New Testament is steeped in authentic history]</span></h2>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>While these theologically liberal Anglican clergy deny the historical validity of the Christmas event, another Anglican &#8212; a historian, exegete, and evangelical theologian, and former Bishop of North Sydney, Dr. Paul Barnett &#8212; provides a counter argument: </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span>&#8220;The best context in which to locate Jesus is discovered by text-based historical enquiry; sociological analysis, though useful, has significant limitations at this distance.  The &#8216;markers&#8217; of Luke 3:1-2 &#8212; John the baptizer, Herod the tetrarch, Annas and Caiaphas the high priests and Pontius Pilate the prefect &#8212; form an encircling context for Jesus.  Yet Jesus is connected with each of these; they are not merely part of the landscape background.  The Jesus of the gospels is tied into his various contexts, whether Galilean or Judean.<br />
&#8220;Because the gospels are self-consciously historical, a better way to begin to investigate Jesus is with the gratuitous information found in the letters.  From these a rough grid may be established by which to validate or otherwise the gospels&#8217; accounts.  The Jesus of the letters, who dies for sins, who is conscious that he is &#8217;son&#8217; or <em>abba</em>, who prays and who seeks in Scripture the prophecies which he is fulfilling, gives strong affirmation of the integrity of the gospels&#8221; (Barnett, 1997, p. 164) </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span>What is happening?  &#8220;The image of Jesus is being refracted through the spirit of these gentlemen&#8221; (M. Kahler in Barnett, 1997, p. 17). </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Dr. Paul Barnett, is compelled by the early evidence of Christianity, not as &#8220;true myths&#8221; (what an oxymoron!), but as genuine history: &#8220;I find this logic compelling.  The phenomenon of the coming into existence of early Christianity is well attested.  Its sudden emergence is as historically secure as any event in Palestine in that century&#8221; (Barnett, 1997, p. 19). </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Barnett (1999) proceeds to document the &#8220;historical secure&#8221; event of Christ and Christianity in his 448 pages of documentation and explanation: <em>Jesus &amp; the Rise of Early Christianity</em>.  He concludes: </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 36pt;"><span>&#8220;The New Testament writers are not preoccupied with the political and social circumstances of those times; that is a modern concern.  Rather, Jesus as the Christ fills the horizons of these writers.  Yet their references to the historical circumstances are important, not so much to give a key to unlock a door of understanding that is otherwise closed but to remind us that Jesus was a real person and that his resurrection was historical because it was a <em>bodily</em> resurrection.  A Jesus who is disconnected from his times easily becomes a mythical figure, whose incarnation, atonement and resurrection are seen as poetic metaphors.<br />
&#8220;Such Gnostic views of Jesus became common a few decades after the New Testament era and for more than a century almost swamped post-apostolic Christianity.  In recent times such views have returned with the rise of postmodernism and New Age thinking&#8221; (p. 415). </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Welcome to Gnostic, postmodern, New Age thinking in modern garb &#8212; in the Australian Anglican church!  This is the rot that undermined the early church for a century or so after Christ&#8217;s resurrection and ascension.  I expect that it will do the same to Australia&#8217;s Anglican church. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>The intrinsic historical nature of Jesus and early Christianity excludes the mythical Jesus of contemporary Anglicanism in Australia (and elsewhere). </span></p>
<h2><span>References:</span></h2>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span> Barnett, Paul W. (1997).  <em>Jesus and the Logic of History</em>.  Leicester, England: Apollos (an imprint of Inter-Varsity Press.<br />
Barnett, Paul  (1999).  <em>Jesus &amp; the Rise of Early Christianity: A History of New Testament Times</em>.  Downers Grove, Illinois: InterVarsity Press.<br />
Cotes, Alison  (1997).  &#8220;True Myths?&#8221; &#8212; a full-page article in the &#8220;Monitor&#8221; section of the Brisbane (Australia) <em>Courier-Mail</em>, Saturday, December 20, 1997.<br />
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 13.5pt;">Titus 1:9 (ESV): &#8220;He (the elder/bishop) must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.&#8221;</span></strong></p>
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